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Συζητήσεις: Μέρος πρώτο

Συζητήσεις: Μέρος πρώτο, κάνει το ντεμπούτο του. Αυτό είναι το πρώτο από τα έξι «συνομιλίες», σχετικά με την κβαντική θεωρία χώρου (QST). Σε αυτό το επεισόδιο, Thad Roberts εποπτεύει την κβαντική θεωρία χώρο, μας δείχνει πώς να απεικονίσει έντεκα διαστάσεις. Όχι άλλη θεωρία (θεωρία των υπερχορδών, η Μ-θεωρία, υπερβαρύτητα, κ.λπ.) ήταν σε θέση να προσφέρει την ανθρωπότητα ένα τέτοιο ζωντανό παράθυρο στην πλήρη τρισδιάστατη δομή της Φύσης. Αυτή η διαισθητική προσέγγιση φέρνει ένα νέο εύρος για την ανθρώπινη φαντασία και προσφέρει μια συναρπαστική νέα πνευματική όραμα που έχει τη δυνατότητα να αλλάξουμε τον κόσμο αλλάζοντας τον τρόπο που βλέπουμε. Η ικανότητα να κατανοεί και διαισθητικά συλλάβει έντεκα διαστάσεις θέτει το στάδιο για να απαντήσει στα μεγαλύτερα μυστήρια στη φυσική.

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  1. Nunya Bizness λέει:

    Δεν υπάρχει αυτό που λέτε είναι αλήθεια. Δεν θα πάρετε το χρόνο να αντικρούσει όλα αυτό το βίντεο, αλλά επιτρέψτε μου να πω το εξής:

    Γενική Σχετικότητα δεν είναι "λάθος", με την έννοια που ισχυρίζονται. Είναι λάθος, υπό την έννοια ότι μια πιο ακριβή θεωρία κάποια μέρα θα έρθει. Αλλά είναι μακράν η πιο ακριβή θεωρία της βαρύτητας που έχει ποτέ προταθεί.

    Θα σας εξηγήσω για σας πώς λειτουργεί, επειδή προφανώς δεν καταλαβαίνουν.

    Γενική Σχετικότητα (GR) διαδέχεται την ειδική σχετικότητα αφήνει ανοικτά? και συγκεκριμένα: η ιδέα ότι ο χώρος και ο χρόνος είναι άρρηκτα συνδεδεμένη με μία οντότητα που ονομάζεται χωρόχρονος. Ένα προφανές ερώτημα είναι, «ποια είναι η γεωμετρία του χωροχρόνου;» Μπορεί να υποθέσουμε ότι ο χωροχρόνος είναι Ευκλείδεια. Θα ήταν λάθος.

    Οι βασικές μαθηματικές βάσεις του GR είναι διαφορική γεωμετρία, η οποία είναι η εφαρμογή της πολυδιάστατης λογισμού με γεωμετρικά αντικείμενα. Via διαφορική γεωμετρία, όλες οι έννοιες της γεωμετρίας ενός χώρου μπορεί να συναχθεί από το ένα μαθηματικό αντικείμενο, γνωστό ως μετρική. Η μετρική είναι ένας τανυστής που μπορεί να χρησιμοποιηθεί για να υπολογιστεί η απόσταση μεταξύ δύο σημείων στο χώρο. Έτσι, η μετρική χαρακτηρίζει εξ ολοκλήρου τη γεωμετρία του χώρου. Η Ευκλείδεια μετρική για n-χώρος είναι ένας πίνακας nxn η είσοδος των οποίων είναι όλες μηδέν, εκτός από τη διαγώνιο, όπου οι συμμετοχές είναι όλοι 1. Εάν χρησιμοποιείτε αυτό για να δημιουργήσετε την απόσταση μεταξύ δύο σημείων στο χώρο, θα σας επιστραφεί το γνωστό Πυθαγόρεια θεώρημα: α ^ 2 + β ^ 2 = c ^ 2 (σημειώστε ότι αυτό είναι το 2-διαστάσεων εκδοχή του θεωρήματος? μπορεί να γενικευτεί με τον προφανή τρόπο σε οποιαδήποτε διάσταση του Ευκλείδειο χώρο).

    Ο χωροχρόνος είναι, σε μια πολύ καλή προσέγγιση, Ευκλείδεια. Αλλά για να είναι πιο ακριβείς, δεν είναι. Αυτό γίνεται ιδιαίτερα εμφανές σε πολύ μεγάλες αποστάσεις, σε πολύ μεγάλο ταχύτητες, ή σε πολύ υψηλές βαρυτικά πεδία. Η μετρική για χωροχρόνος είναι ταυτόσημη με την Ευκλείδεια μετρική, με την εξαίρεση ότι η διαγώνια καταχώρηση στη στήλη για το χρόνο έχει το αντίθετο πρόσημο από τα υπόλοιπα διαγώνια στοιχεία.

    Ποιο είναι το αποτέλεσμα αυτής; Λοιπόν, ένα γνωστό θεώρημα από την Ευκλείδεια γεωμετρία είναι ότι η συντομότερη απόσταση μεταξύ δύο σημείων είναι μια ευθεία γραμμή. Σε χωροχρόνο, αυτό δεν είναι έτσι. Λόγω της βασικής αποτελέσματα από Ειδικής Σχετικότητας που δεν θα προκύψουν εδώ (διαβάστε κάθε φοιτητής ειδική σχετικότητα βιβλίο), το ποσό του χρόνου που μετρήθηκε από ένα παρατηρητή εξαρτάται από την πορεία που ταξιδεύει μέσω του χωροχρόνου. Αυτό ονομάζεται η κατάλληλη στιγμή. Λόγω της μη-Ευκλείδεια φύση του χωροχρόνου, η μικρότερη απόσταση μεταξύ δύο σημείων είναι στην πραγματικότητα αυτό που ελαχιστοποιεί την κατάλληλη στιγμή. Με άλλα λόγια, ξέρετε, τρέχοντας από την άκρη του γαλαξία την ταχύτητα του φωτός και στη συνέχεια την επιστροφή θα χρειαστεί λιγότερο χρόνο για εσάς στο διαστημόπλοιό σας από ό, τι θα ήταν για μένα να περιμένω ενώ πηγαίνετε στο ταξίδι σας. Αυτό είναι το περίφημο παράδοξο των διδύμων.

    Τέλος πάντων, το αποτέλεσμα αυτού είναι ότι, από τη Μεταβολική αρχή (η οποία θα πρέπει να είναι γνωστά σε σας, αν έχετε εκτεθεί σε λαγκρανζιανή μηχανική, το οποίο υποψιάζομαι ότι δεν έχετε ...), τα αντικείμενα στο χωροχρόνο τείνουν να ταξιδέψει από το μονοπάτι που ελαχιστοποιεί την ώρα τους. Όπως αναφέρθηκε προηγουμένως, η σωστή ώρα μειώνεται από τα ταξίδια με μεγάλη ταχύτητα, ή να είναι σε ένα βαρυτικό πεδίο.

    Πάρτε τώρα, ως παράδειγμα, ένα μήλο σε ένα δέντρο. Η Apple θα προσπαθήσει να ελαχιστοποιήσει την κατάλληλη ώρα. Αυτό θα γίνει μέσω της μετάβασης σε βαρυτικό πεδίο - δηλαδή, τη Γη. Αυτό οδηγεί σε μια δύναμη έλξης μεταξύ του μήλου και τον πλανήτη. Με άλλα λόγια, το μέλλον των σημείων worldlike του μήλου προς το κέντρο της Γης.

    Αυτό είναι το πώς λειτουργεί η βαρύτητα, με λίγα λόγια. Το γεγονός ότι δεν ξέρετε να αποφεύγονται ανικανότητα σας να προσπαθεί να εργαστούν σε αυτόν τον τομέα. Αλλά είναι δική σας χρόνο για χάσιμο, υποθέτω ...

    • Geo λέει:

      Έτσι, επιτρέψτε μου να πάρει αυτό το κατ 'ευθείαν ... Το μήλο θα προσπαθήσουμε ελαχιστοποιήσει κατάλληλη στιγμή του με τη μετακίνηση προς ένα βαρυτικό πεδίο και αυτό είναι ό, τι η βαρύτητα είναι (σε ​​μια ισχυρή οντολογική σημασία). Γιατί το μήλο προσπαθούν να ελαχιστοποιήσουν σωστό χρόνο του; Τι είναι ένα πεδίο βαρύτητας; Τι είναι η βαρύτητα; Το σχόλιό σας δεν έχει πραγματικά καμία απάντηση στα ερωτήματα αυτά ή ακόμα και βοήθησε να διευκρινίσει τους. Το μόνο που έχουν κάνει είναι να ορίζουν ένα μαγικό πεδίο που προσελκύει τα μήλα.

      • Chandan Srivastava λέει:

        συντομότερη distence μπορεί να είναι μέτρο με λογισμό της μεταβολής.

        • Thad Roberts λέει:

          Είστε σωστό να πούμε ότι η συντομότερη απόσταση μπορεί να μετρηθεί με τη χρήση ενός λογισμού της διακύμανσης, εφ 'όσον το μετρικό μιλάμε για είναι ομαλή και συνδέεται. Σε ένα κβαντισμένο μετρικούς το θέμα μπορεί να πάρει λίγο πιο περίπλοκη.

          • Pierre Rousseau λέει:

            "Σε ένα κβαντισμένο μετρικούς το θέμα μπορεί να πάρει λίγο πιο περίπλοκη." - Thad Roberts.

            Αυτός είναι ο λόγος για τον οποίο μια περαιτέρω περιπλοκή ισχύει και για την κβαντική διακριτότητας, όπως ισχύει για όλα τα αντικείμενα. Όλα τα αντικείμενα είναι αντιλήψεις, συμπεριλαμβανομένων των εννοιών. Όλα υπαρξιακή πραγματικότητα (συνείδηση) είναι φαινομενολογική ή αφήγηση. Το σφάλμα δεν είναι μόνο η σύλληψη του υπερφυσικού. Είναι ακόμα πιο έντονα αισθητοποίησης του supernarrative. Με άλλα λόγια, η επίκληση της μυστικής θεών, και η επίκληση του έμψυχου προσώπων ως διακριτό θεληματικό αντικείμενα σταθεί σε αμοιβαία κατασκεύασμα.

            Όσο για διαφορικού λογισμού. Είναι πάρα πολύ δεν αρχίζει να θίξουν το θέμα της ύπαρξης. Είναι όμως ένα άλλο διασκεδαστικό αφήγηση ρυτίδων.

      • Peter Martin λέει:

        "Τι είναι η βαρύτητα;» «Τι είναι ένα βαρυτικό πεδίο;" Αυτά είναι ψευδο "ΚτΠ" ερωτήσεις που, από τη φύση τους δεν μπορούν ποτέ να απαντηθούν.

        Μπορείτε να απολαύσετε την ανάγνωση σχετικά με την Εταιρεία Ganeral σημασιολογία με επικεφαλής τον Alfred Korzybski, ο οποίος απέφυγε τις δηλώσεις και τις ερωτήσεις (ή μόνο) των οποίων η κύρια ρήμα είναι μια μορφή "να είναι".

    • Jon λέει:

      Για Nunya: όλα όσα είπε είναι όλα ωραία και καλά, αλλά δεν εξηγούν ένα πράγμα: ό, τι είναι ένα πεδίο βαρύτητας; Η γενική σχετικότητα εξηγεί τα αποτελέσματα της βαρύτητας, αλλά ακόμα δεν πραγματικά να εξηγήσει τι είναι η βαρύτητα. Όπως λέει στο βίντεο, είχαμε να υποθέσουμε ότι η βαρύτητα είναι μια δύναμη. Αλλά αν είναι, γιατί είναι τόσο εξαιρετικά αδύναμη σε σύγκριση με τις άλλες δυνάμεις; Σχετικότητας είναι μια μεγάλη θεωρία για μεγάλα πράγματα, αλλά δεν εξηγεί απολύτως τίποτα στο υποατομικό επίπεδο. Τουλάχιστον αυτή η θεωρία δίνει τους ίδιους κανόνες για ολόκληρο το σύμπαν σε κάθε κλίμακα. Και αυτό δίνει μια μεγάλη εξήγηση του τι ώρα είναι.

  2. Nunya Bizness λέει:

    Είναι η αρχή της αδράνειας: ένα αντικείμενο θα κινούνται σε ευθεία γραμμή, εκτός εάν ενήργησε κατόπιν από μια δύναμη. Ο ορισμός του «ευθεία γραμμή» είναι το μονοπάτι που ελαχιστοποιεί την απόσταση.

    Η ουσία είναι ότι GR χώρος δεν είναι επίπεδη, και ότι η βαρύτητα είναι η εκδήλωση της στρεβλή χωροχρόνου. Ότι προκαλεί στρέβλωση ευθείες γραμμές (εκείνοι που ελαχιστοποιούν την κατάλληλη στιγμή) τόξο προς κομμάτια μάζα - με άλλα λόγια, τα αντικείμενα προσελκύουν το ένα το άλλο.

    Γενική Σχετικότητα είναι μια πολύ περίπλοκη θεωρία. Τι έχω γράψει είναι μια γελοία σύντομη crash-εισαγωγή σε αυτό. Αντί απλά να είναι επιφυλακτικοί σχετικά με τα πάντα και την απόρριψή του από το χέρι, γιατί να μην διαβάζουν πραγματικά ένα βιβλίο για Σχετικότητας; Είναι δύσκολο να ισχυριστεί ότι έχετε διέψευσε Σχετικότητας, χωρίς καν να το καταλάβω πρώτα ...

    • Geo λέει:

      Πρώτα απ 'όλα, εγώ (και δεν είμαι Thad, οπότε δεν μιλάω για αυτόν) δεν είμαι δύσπιστος ΓΡ. Έχει αποδειχθεί η ίδια όσο οποιαδήποτε θεωρία μπορεί. Στην πραγματικότητα, νομίζω, δίπλα στα αρχαία ελληνικά ατομικής θεωρίας, είναι η πιο σημαντική θεωρητική (φυσική) επανάσταση η ανθρωπότητα έχει γίνει ποτέ. Τούτου λεχθέντος, δεν νομίζω ότι είναι πλήρης, ούτε και ο ίδιος ο Αϊνστάιν. Τι δεν νομίζω ότι μπορείτε να καταλάβετε είναι ότι QST είναι μια επέκταση για ΓΡ. Είναι με πολλούς τρόπους, ο κβαντισμός του GR (από μία συνεχή σε ένα διακριτό σύστημα). Μπορείτε φαίνεται να πιστεύουν ότι είμαστε διαλύσει ΓΡ. Δεν είμαστε. Thad δεν κατονόμασε το βιβλίο του «Η διαίσθηση του Αϊνστάιν" από το φθόνο, αλλά από σεβασμό. Αν είχε μπει στον κόπο να ακούσετε ό, τι ειπώθηκε στο βίντεο που θα έχουν συγκεντρώσει μόνος σου.

      Δεύτερον, QST, ξεκινούσε από την ίδια την ιδέα, ότι η βαρύτητα είναι η εκδήλωση της στρεβλή χωροχρόνου. Αλλά QST δίνει ένα συγκεκριμένο μηχανισμό για την εν λόγω στρέβλωση. Η βαρύτητα είναι, κυριολεκτικά, μια μεταβολή στην πυκνότητα του χώρου (μία διαβάθμιση πυκνότητας). Δεν νομίζω ότι αυτό ρίχνει GR έξω από το παράθυρο. Αντίθετα, στέκεται πάνω τους μεγάλους ώμους των δύο Αϊνστάιν και τις θεωρίες του.

      Αν θα θέλατε να έχουν μια κρίσιμη, παραγωγικό διάλογο για το θέμα αυτό, Thad και είναι περισσότερο από πρόθυμοι να το πράξουν. Ανταγωνισμό και ψευδείς δηλώσεις του QST σας, ωστόσο δεν έχουν ενδιαφέρον για εμάς.

      Cheers,

      Jeff (Διαχειριστής Ιστοσελίδας)

      • Nunya Bizness λέει:

        Σημείο μου δεν είναι ότι είστε bashing ΓΡ. Είναι ότι είστε το παρεξήγηση, και, κατά συνέπεια, τα συμπεράσματα που σχεδιάζετε είναι εσφαλμένη.

        Για παράδειγμα, Thad λέει στο βίντεο ότι η κοινώς δει «τραμπολίνο» διάγραμμα GR είναι εσφαλμένη, διότι αγνοεί έναν άξονα του χώρου, και ότι χρειαζόμαστε κάποιο τρόπο περισσότερο τις διαστάσεις του χώρου για να «τεντώσει σε" για την Ελλάδα για να εργαστούν. Φυσικά αυτό το διάγραμμα είναι λάθος - είναι απλά μια μεταφορά. Είναι που χρησιμοποιούνται μόνο για να εισαχθεί η έννοια να λαϊκούς οι οποίοι, όπως είναι αυτονόητο, έχουν έναν σκληρό χρόνο παλεύει με ένα 4-διάστατο ψευδο-Riemannian ποικίλοι. Για να σκεφτεί ότι αυτό το απλό μοντέλο ενσωματώνει η θεωρία είναι λάθος. Το διάστημα μπορεί να παραμορφώσουν χωρίς παραμόρφωση σε μια άλλη διάσταση.

        Υπάρχουν αμέτρητα άλλα θέματα που δεν τακτοποιήσει με τις καθιερωμένες μαθηματικών και της φυσικής, όπως η ιδέα ότι το π αντιπροσωπεύει μια ποσότητα καμπυλότητας (και ότι αυτό είναι το ελάχιστο ποσό της καμπυλότητας). Pi είναι μια αναλογία? καμπυλότητα μετράται με κατευθυντικό μερικών παραγώγων.

        Εγώ δεν σας λέω να σταματήσετε αυτό που κάνετε. Σας λέω, ως κάποιος που έχει εκπαιδευτεί στα μαθηματικά και τη φυσική, ότι, αν σας ενδιαφέρει σε αυτά τα πράγματα, είσαι σε λάθος δρόμο, και δεν πρόκειται να σας πάρει οπουδήποτε νόημα. Ζητώ συγγνώμη αν αυτό είναι σκληρή, αλλά η διαφορά μεταξύ πραγματικής και ψευδής είναι πολύ απότομη. Αυτός είναι ο λόγος σας εκλιπαρώ και Thad να μελετήσει καθιερωμένη φυσική όπως Σχετικότητας σε βάθος (δηλαδή, μαθηματικά) προτού επιχειρήσετε να βελτιώσουμε την κατάσταση τους.

        • Geo λέει:

          Εκτιμώ όσα λέτε. Δεν είμαι μαθηματικός ή φυσικός, αλλά μάλλον ενδιαφέρονται (και κατά πάσα πιθανότητα πάνω από μορφωμένους) να ορίσει πρόσωπο. Ωστόσο, υπάρχουν αρκετοί μαθηματικοί και οι θεωρητικοί φυσικοί που εργάζονται για την επισημοποίηση της QST τώρα με Thad. Όπως φαίνεται, θεωρούν ότι υπάρχει κάτι σε αυτό. Αυτοί οι άνθρωποι είναι εξοικειωμένοι με τις θεωρίες και τα μαθηματικά μιλάτε στα σχόλιά σας. Έχουν κάνει περισσότερα από ό, τι διαβάσετε τα εισαγωγικά κείμενα που προτείνουν. Δεν είναι ένας εμπειρογνώμονας θα πρέπει να αναβάλει να τους. Τούτου λεχθέντος, κανένας από αυτούς δεν έχουν ρίξει τα χέρια τους μέχρι και έφυγε μετά από πολλούς μήνες εργασίας, αλλά έχουν γίνει πιο πεπεισμένοι. Θα εξακολουθούν να αισθάνονται ότι υπάρχει κάτι που πρέπει να αποκτηθεί επιστημονικά από τις προσπάθειές τους.

          Από λαϊκός άποψη, QST προσφορές (για μένα τουλάχιστον) μια εξήγηση για μια σειρά ετερόκλητων φαινόμενα (τόσο μακροσκοπικά και μικροσκοπικά) που αντιστέκονται εξήγηση για αυτή την ημέρα. Ένα από τα σημεία Thad είναι ότι μια θεωρία που δεν παρέχει μια εξήγηση, δεν είναι πολύ της θεωρίας (αυτό θα ήταν ένα τρύπημα στο πρότυπο ερμηνεία της κβαντομηχανικής που του αξίζει πλουσιοπάροχα). Αντιλαμβάνομαι ότι, μέχρι την πλήρη τυποποίηση είναι πλήρης μεγαλύτερο μέρος της επιστημονικής κοινότητας δεν θα δώσει QST την ώρα της ημέρας (και πολλοί δεν θα ακόμη και όταν η επισημοποίηση είναι πλήρης). Αλλά σε αυτό το σημείο, η θεωρία είναι ελέγξιμη ακόμα στο εργαστήριο της λογικής. Βρείτε ένα σφάλμα με τη λογική της, την έδρα της, τα συμπεράσματά της. Αυτό είναι όπου είμαστε τώρα. Μέχρι στιγμής, εξ όσων γνωρίζω, κανείς δεν έχει διαψευσθεί οποιαδήποτε από αυτές τις θεωρητικές αποσπάσματα από QST.

          Προφανώς υπάρχει ακόμα πολλή δουλειά να κάνουμε, αλλά πιστεύω (ναι είναι η πεποίθηση) ότι ένα γερό θεμέλιο έχει ήδη κατασκευαστεί. Όπως λένε, ο διάβολος κρύβεται στις λεπτομέρειες, και αυτές οι λεπτομέρειες που θα εκπονηθούν. Οι εργασίες θα γραφτούν. Οι επιθεωρητές θα επανεξετάσει.

          Θα ήθελα να σας καλέσω να διαβάσετε ολόκληρο το βιβλίο (το οποίο μπορούμε να στείλουμε μέσω PDF αν θέλετε).

        • Jon λέει:

          Nunya, όπου ήσουν άνθρωπος; Όλα τα πρωτοποριακά νέας φυσικής που γίνεται υποθέτει ότι υπάρχουν επιπλέον χωρικές διαστάσεις. Αν είστε τόσο σίγουροι ότι GR είναι το να είναι όλα τέλος όλα, στη συνέχεια να εξηγήσει κβαντικού φαινομένου σήραγγας. Εξηγήστε αρχή της αβεβαιότητας. Δεν μπορεί να το αγγίξει. Ο ίδιος ο Αϊνστάιν δεν πίστευε ότι υπήρχε πραγματικά οι μαύρες τρύπες. Τώρα έχουμε την απόδειξη ότι υπάρχουν εκατομμύρια παντού. GR σπάει εντελώς προς τα κάτω στο κέντρο μιας μαύρης τρύπας. Εμείς δεν μπορούμε να προχωρήσουμε αν δεν είμαστε διατεθειμένοι να διασκεδάσει τη δυνατότητα λήψης πρόσθετων διαστάσεων. Πάρτε με το πρόγραμμα.

        • G-μπουλόνι λέει:

          Μπορείτε περιγράφονται μαθηματικές επεξηγήσεις των δυνάμεων. Μπορείτε εξήγησε πώς συμπεριφέρονται χωρίς καμία υποψία ως προς το γιατί.

          Η στρεβλή χώρος μοντέλο είναι το μοντέλο δεν απευθύνονται σε ειδικούς, μπορείτε να το ρίξει, όπως μπορείτε να αποδεχθεί την παραδοχή ότι το διάστημα μπορεί να καμπυλωθεί με έναν τρόπο που δεν μπορούμε να αντιληφθούμε.

          Το πρόβλημα είναι ότι, εξ ορισμού, κάτι για να καμπύλη (ή να αλλάξει τις ιδιότητες, δεν υπάρχει καμία διαφορά) κατά τρόπο που να είναι ανεπαίσθητη μας θα πρέπει να κινείται σε μια άλλη διάσταση. Αλλαγή οποιαδήποτε περιουσία αλλάζει μια «διάσταση».

          Φαντάζονται αυτές τις διαστάσεις σε φυσικούς όρους ακριβώς κάνει αλληλεπιδράσεις τους πιο κατανοητό ή τουλάχιστον παρέχει μια νέα προοπτική.

  3. Ιωάννης λέει:

    Νομίζω ότι (Nunya Bizness) έχει χάσει εντελώς το μήνυμα εδώ. Είστε ευπρόσδεκτοι να τη γνώμη σας, αλλά μετά την ανάγνωση πάνω από τα σχόλια σας μου φαίνεται ότι έχετε μπερδέψει τους ισχυρισμούς της κβαντικής θεωρίας χώρο. Ξέρω ότι το σκεύασμα δεν έχει ακόμη ολοκληρωθεί, αλλά οι θεμελιώδεις αρχές έχουν συνοχή.

    Ενδιαφέρομαι για τον ισχυρισμό σας ότι "το διάστημα μπορεί να παραμορφώσουν χωρίς παραμόρφωση σε μια άλλη διάσταση.»

    Θεωρώ ότι δεν ουσιαστικοί λόγοι για τους ισχυρισμού αυτού. ΑΣΕ με να εξηγήσω. Το να πούμε ότι ο χώρος μπορεί να παραμορφώσουν χωρίς παραμόρφωση σε άλλες διαστάσεις είναι να πούμε ότι έχετε ένα μηχανισμό, μια εξήγηση για το πώς ο χώρος μπορεί να παραμορφώσουν - όχι απλώς μια περιγραφή για το πώς ο χώρος είναι στραβωμένος γύρω από τα τεράστια αντικείμενα. Ενώ θα μπορούσε να αποδειχθεί ότι είναι η υπόθεση ότι υπάρχουν και άλλοι τρόποι για την εξεύρεση χώρου για να παραμορφώσουν (εκτός από τη στρέβλωση σε άλλες διαστάσεις), ένας τέτοιος ισχυρισμός δεν μπορεί να τεκμηριωθεί μέχρι κάποιου είδους παραδείγματα τίθενται. Δεν μπορούμε απλά να πούμε, κοιτάξτε, ο χώρος είναι στραβωμένος γιατί δώσαμε χώρο μια μέτρηση που δίνει την ποιότητα να στρεβλωθεί. Εφευρίσκοντας μια αναπαράσταση της ποιότητας είναι εντελώς διαφορετική από εξηγώντας ότι η ποιότητα. Όπως έχουν τα πράγματα αυτή τη στιγμή (σε σύγχρονα σχολικά βιβλία) την ίδια την έννοια του «χώρου στρεβλή» είναι απρόσιτη. Φυσικά μπορείτε να χρησιμοποιήσετε τα μαθηματικά για να το εκπροσωπούν, το μιμούνται, αντιγράψτε το, ή οτιδήποτε άλλο, αλλά ότι τα μαθηματικά δεν σημαίνει απαραίτητα ότι έχετε μια εξήγηση για την προέλευσή του. Το πώς ακριβώς κάνει ο χωροχρόνος στημόνι χωρίς παραμόρφωση σε μια άλλη διάσταση (ες); Αυτό είναι το κεντρικό ερώτημα στο χέρι. Η κβαντική θεωρία χώρο λέει ότι δεν μπορεί, αλλά δεν ωθεί στρεβλή χωροχρόνου έξω από την εικόνα, αντί να αποσαφηνίζει τον τρόπο με το στημόνι έρχεται περίπου - δικαιώνοντας Αϊνστάιν με τρόπο που θα τον ευχαριστήσει πολύ.

    Έχω διαβάσει αρκετά περισσότερο από ό, τι τα σχολικά βιβλία που μιλούν. I have taken the classes (both in math and physics) and then gone further. If you have done the same then I'm sure you'll agree that in those books they simply get people to swallow “guts, feathers, and all” the idea that we can invent a field out of nowhere as long as that field yields results that match observation. The gravitational field is assumed to give space some additional characteristic which is mappable by a tensor. The problem is, and always has been, that the simple invention of this field does not give us an explanation for how that field entangles with spacetime, what causes it to come into existence, or what it really is. It is just taken as brute that it exists in association with mass, without any necessary reason. The logic here needs a bit of improvement. It also needs a little more honesty. Einstein was well aware of this (finding this explanation was the project that occupied his last 30 years). While it is true that if you just swallow the existence of this field you will agree that straight paths becomes the paths of orbits, but quantum space theory is not contesting this – it is attempting to explain it. The theory is simply asking a different, more fundamental question than you are giving it credit for. It is asking why and how this warp occurs?

    Scientists ought not to be looking merely for an association, we ought to be looking for a causal connection, an explanation. There is quite a significant difference between associations and explanation, quite a significant difference between having a mathematical representation of a system and a complete metaphysical explanation for that system. That's why I, and a growing number of scientists, are interested in this and, at least in my case, are devoting a little time each week to developing it.

    • Nunya Bizness says:

      “I know the formulation is not yet complete, but the foundational principles do have coherence.”

      They do not. For example: the picture that Thad uses in the above video, with the “bubbles” bouncing about is not 11 dimensional at all. It is three dimensional. The “bubbles” are moving in three dimensions, and Thad claims that there are three dimensions inside the bubble. There is nothing separating the inside and the outside of the bubble other than the bubble's wall, so there is no reason to regard them as separate realms.

      All the dimensions of a given space are perpendicular to one another (this is a very well-known result of linear algebra). If you want to imagine 11-dimensional space, you have to imagine 11 lines that are all perpendicular to one another. You can't. Neither can I. It's impossible, and our failure to picture it has absolutely nothing to do with physics.

      “I am interested in your claim that “space can warp without warping into another dimension.”
      I find no substantial grounds for this claim.”

      This is not a claim. It's a mathematical truth that is extremely obvious, even in real life. Take, for example, a rubber band. Imagine you live on the surface of that band. If I stretch it, you will witness the space around you warping. The distance between you and nearby objects will increase. This is similar to what happens in spacetime. Dimensions stretch in their own direction.

      “Let me explain. To say that space can warp without warping into other dimensions is to say that you have a mechanism, an explanation, for how space might warp – not merely a description for how space is warped around massive objects.”

      No. This does not follow logically. To say that space can warp without needing other dimensions is a statement that stands on its own. It is a geometrical statement. The essence of that statement, mathematically, is that dimensions are linearly independent. It says nothing about a “mechanism.”

      At any rate, GR does posit a “mechanism.” Namely, matter warps spacetime. Περίοδος. Look at the Einstein Field Equation. Literally, stress-energy = spacetime curvature. Perhaps there is a deeper explanation. And that will be an object of study of the next theory of gravity. But the simple fact is, GR makes sense, it has been extremely(!) vilified by experiment, and it provides an enlightening view of gravity (the warping of spacetime).

      “the very meaning of “warped space” is inaccessible”

      A problem that QST advocates seem to have is that they think all of physics should be reducible to simple “pictures” that any layman can understand. It would be nice if that were possible, but it's not. Physics (especially at the level QST tries to function) is extremely complex, and there's no way of getting around that. That's why people like Einstein are regarded as geniuses; not just any schmuck can understand it. So, in order to help more people understand, scientists frequently simplify and quash their theories into very basic ideas and metaphors (like the trampoline model of relativity). The problem is, many people will mistake this metaphor for the actual theory. They'll notice that the model is flawed, and suddenly they think they've made the discovery of the century. But the model is designed to be flawed; those flaws allow the model to be simple enough to understand.

      “Exactly how does spacetime warp without warping into another dimension(s)? That's the central question at hand. Quantum space theory says that it can't, but it doesn't push warped spacetime out of the picture, instead it clarifies how the warp comes about – vindicating Einstein in a way that would very much please him.”

      First of all, you cannot speak for Einstein; he is long dead. Second, if QST claims that spacetime requires additional dimensions in order to be warped, then QST breaks Relativity. End of story. Relativity depends fundamentally on the fact that spacetime can do this. And GR is mostly correct. So if any theory violates this idea (or any other that invalidates GR entirely) that theory must be false. There's no two ways about it.

      “you'll agree that in those books they simply get people to swallow “guts, feathers, and all” the idea that we can invent a field out of nowhere as long as that field yields results that match observation.”

      There is a philosophical issue here. You are correct to say that there is a difference between predicting a phenomenon and actually explaining it. A good theory must do both. But you must understand two things: 1) science is a process. The original theory of gravity (Newton's) offered no explanation at all. But it was excellent at predicting. Relativity improved the prediction, and offered an explanation (curved geometry). You may complain that the explanation does not go far enough, but that does not mean it is not an explanation. The next theory of gravity will surely hold more insight. And 2), the explanations given by a theory are not always simple. Einstein *did* explain gravity, at least to an extent. But that explanation (when given in full) requires the use of 4 dimensions – something we're not used to. The only way to make it seem simple is to strip away some of the complexity, and speak metaphorically about a bowling ball on a trampoline.

      “The gravitational field is assumed to give space some additional characteristic which is mappable by a tensor. The problem is, and always has been, that the simple invention of this field does not give us an explanation for how that field entangles with spacetime, what causes it to come into existence, or what it really is.”

      Most of this doesn't even make sense. Gravity doesn't entangle with spacetime; it does not give spacetime some weird characteristic. Gravity is the curvature of space, no more, no less. It can be regarded as a field, which Newton did; but Relativity says it is geometry, and it is much more accurate. Relativity says that this curvature is caused by mass. If there is anything deeper going on here (which there may not be!), some future theory will uncover it.

      The larger issue here is the meaning of existence. The way science works is by postulating a theory of a phenomenon; an explanation. That explanation must be good enough to give a prediction (in modern times this means math). The given explanation may postulate the existence of things beyond what is presently observed (or is possible to observe). If the theory is coherent, gives accurate predictions, and is as simple as possible (Occam's Razor), it may be regarded on some level as being true.

      For the example of the gravitational field, Relativity: gravity is curvature of spacetime. This is calculated with the Ricci tensor, and highly accurate predictions are made. Virtually every prediction of GR has been verified to experimental limit – and this includes, most importantly, the direct measurement of spacetime curvature!

      On the other hand, QST: self-contradictory and incoherent explanation of various phenomena. No mathematical predictions at all. (Pi is not a measurement of curvature!) No experimental predictions, no experimental tests. It fails on every count. There is nothing here.

      • Geo λέει:

        I'll respond to each section individually (if I'm missing something, John, please comment yourself):

        “I know the formultion is not yet complete, but the foundational principles do have coherence.”

        They do not. For example: the picture that Thad uses in the above video, with the “bubbles” bouncing about is not 11 dimensional at all. It is three dimensional. The “bubbles” are moving in three dimensions, and Thad claims that there are three dimensions inside the bubble. There is nothing separating the inside and the outside of the bubble other than the bubble's wall, so there is no reason to regard them as separate realms.

        If you take the original axiom seriously then this picture does represent 9 dimensions of space. Quantization institutes the very restriction that you are ignoring, so your complaint begs the question.

        All the dimensions of a given space are perpendicular to one another (this is a very well-known result of linear algebra). If you want to imagine 11-dimensional space, you have to imagine 11 lines that are all perpendicular to one another. You can't. Neither can I. It's impossible, and our failure to picture it has absolutely nothing to do with physics.

        Technically, “perpendicular” is an oversimplification used in elementary geometry. The correct term is orthogonal. Two elements of an inner product space fit the definition of orthogonal if their inner product is zero. Two subspaces can be called independent dimensions if they are orthogonal, and they are orthogonal if every element of one is orthogonal to every element of the other. To put it simply, if motion in one does not entail motion in the other then they are orthogonal subspaces. Your assertion that it is impossible to imagine more than 3 space dimensions is something that we definitely disagree on. You are entitled to remain with your current opinion. (Thanks to my mathematician friend for help here…)

        “I am interested in your claim that “space can warp without warping into another dimension.” I find no substantial grounds for this claim.”

        This is not a claim. It's a mathematical truth that is extremely obvious, even in real life. Take, for example, a rubber band. Imagine you live on the surface of that band. If I stretch it, you will witness the space around you warping. The distance between you and nearby objects will increase. This is similar to what happens in spacetime. Dimensions stretch in their own direction.

        Ok, let's take your example seriously. Imagine that we all live on the surface of a that band, except for you of course because you are stretching it. As you stretch it and we observe the rest of the universe that we are aware of, which is also contained by the band, what will we see? Nothing. Exactly nothing. We are stretching in exact proportion with the rest of the universe so everything appears to be identical at all points to us whether or not you stretch it. The only way out of this conclusion is to imagine that you, as the observer, somehow live outside of the space that is stretching instead of being within it. At any rate, you haven't addressed the concern.

        “Let me explain. To say that space can warp without warping into other dimensions is to say that you have a mechanism, an explanation, for how space might warp – not merely a description for how space is warped around massive objects.”

        No. This does not follow logically. To say that space can warp without needing other dimensions is a statement that stands on its own. It is a geometrical statement. The essence of that statement, mathematically, is that dimensions are linearly independent. It says nothing about a “mechanism.”

        Linearly independent makes no play here. All dimensions, by definition, are orthogonal whether or not curvature is a part of the description. You say that “it can warp without needing other dimensions” then simply explain how. You are asserting that it is possible, that there is some way for this to occur, that it is at least feasible, so provide something to validates this.

        At any rate, GR does posit a “mechanism.” Namely, matter warps spacetime. Περίοδος. Look at the Einstein Field Equation. Literally, stress-energy = spacetime curvature. Perhaps there is a deeper explanation. And that will be an object of study of the next theory of gravity. But the simple fact is, GR makes sense, it has been extremely(!) vilified [sic] by experiment, and it provides an enlightening view of gravity (the warping of spacetime).

        This is a study of the next theory of gravity. What do you think we've been talking about all of this time? Of course general relativity makes sense! It's almost correct too. Of course it has been extremely verified by experiment. Nowhere have we ever contested this. In fact, our interest in general relativity and developing a way to make it account for the effects of quantum mechanics has been the motivation all along. I don't know how you got the idea that QST is pitted against general relativity. It simply isn't the case. We are on the quest to vindicate general relativity the rest of the way, to find its fundamental ontological explanation and to show how the geometry that gives rise to the beautiful effects of general relativity can also be linked to the effects of quantum mechanics.

        “the very meaning of “warped space” is inaccessible”

        A problem that QST advocates seem to have is that they think all of physics should be reducible to simple “pictures” that any layman can understand. It would be nice if that were possible, but it's not. Physics (especially at the level QST tries to function) is extremely complex, and there's no way of getting around that. That's why people like Einstein are regarded as geniuses; not just any schmuck can understand it. So, in order to help more people understand, scientists frequently simplify and quash their theories into very basic ideas and metaphors (like the trampoline model of relativity). The problem is, many people will mistake this metaphor for the actual theory. They'll notice that the model is flawed, and suddenly they think they've made the discovery of the century. But the model is designed to be flawed; those flaws allow the model to be simple enough to understand.

        You will have to allow all of us QST advocates to firmly disagree with you here. We continue to support Einstein on this one.

        “It should be possible to explain the laws of physics to a barmaid.” – Albert Einstein

        “Exactly how does space time warp without warping into another dimension(s)? That's the central question at hand. Quantum space theory says that it can't, but it doesn't push warped space time out of the picture, instead it clarifies how the warp comes about – vindicating Einstein in a way that would very much please him.”

        First of all, you cannot speak for Einstein; he is long dead. Second, if QST claims that spacetime requires additional dimensions in order to be warped, then QST breaks Relativity. End of story. Relativity depends fundamentally on the fact that spacetime can do this. And GR is mostly correct. So if any theory violates this idea (or any other that invalidates GR entirely) that theory must be false. There's no two ways about it.

        Of course QST breaks with relativity, but only on the microscopic scale, where every future theory of gravity must break with it if it has any hope of being right. General relativity IS mostly correct. Why are you still trying to comment on this as if we disagree? Any complete theory of gravity must disagree with general relativity on the small scales and agree with is on the large scales. Simple as that. Einstein knew this, no way around it, so I'm not sure how your complaint is supposed to be directed.

        “you'll agree that in those books they simply get people to swallow “guts, feathers, and all” the idea that we can invent a field out of nowhere as long as that field yields results that match observation.”

        There is a philosophical issue here. You are correct to say that there is a difference between predicting a phenomenon and actually explaining it. A good theory must do both. But you must understand two things: 1) science is a process. The original theory of gravity (Newton's) offered no explanation at all. But it was excellent at predicting. Relativity improved the prediction, and offered an explanation (curved geometry).

        We could not agree more.

        You may complain that the explanation does not go far enough, but that does not mean it is not an explanation. The next theory of gravity will surely hold more insight.

        And exactly what do you think we are doing here. This is our point. This is why we are working on this.

        And 2), the explanations given by a theory are not always simple.

        Έχεις δίκιο. They are only simple when they are complete and correct.

        Einstein *did* explain gravity, at least to an extent. But that explanation (when given in full) requires the use of 4 dimensions – something we're not used to. The only way to make it seem simple is to strip away some of the complexity, and speak metaphorically about a bowling ball on a trampoline.

        Seeing it for what it is instead of only partially explaining it can make it simple too. Of course the trampoline is only intended as a metaphor. Of course Einstein would have gone with something better if he had succeeded in finding it. Are you trying to argue that because Einstein is dead no one should continue pushing for a more complete explanation?

        “The gravitational field is assumed to give space some additional characteristic which is mappable by a tensor. The problem is, and always has been, that the simple invention of this field does not give us an explanation for how that field entangles with spacetime, what causes it to come into existence, or what it really is.”

        Most of this doesn't even make sense. Gravity doesn't entangle with spacetime; it does not give spacetime some weird characteristic.

        Curvature is a characteristic.

        Gravity is the curvature of space, no more, no less. It can be regarded as a field, which Newton did; but Relativity says it is geometry, and it is much more accurate. Relativity says that this curvature is caused by mass. If there is anything deeper going on here (which there may not be!), some future theory will uncover it.

        The larger issue here is the meaning of existence. The way science works is by postulating a theory of a phenomenon; an explanation. That explanation must be good enough to give a prediction (in modern times this means math). The given explanation may postulate the existence of things beyond what is presently observed (or is possible to observe). If the theory is coherent, gives accurate predictions, and is as simple as possible (Occam's Razor), it may be regarded on some level as being true.

        Exactly. Feel free to direct yourself to the general predictions that stem from this geometry. If your attack is that there are no “exact” predictions yet, due to the fact that we haven't finished the full mathematical formulation of the geometry, then you hardly have any business telling us to stop working on the math of the theory.

        For the example of the gravitational field, Relativity: gravity is curvature of spacetime. This is calculated with the Ricci tensor, and highly accurate predictions are made. Virtually every prediction of GR has been verified to experimental limit – and this includes, most importantly, the direct measurement of spacetime curvature!

        Of course it has. It is abundantly clear that you are entirely confused about the claims and goals of this new theory. You are determined to pit it against general relativity instead of seeing it as an ontological validation and supporter of general relativity.

        On the other hand, QST: self-contradictory and incoherent explanation of various phenomena. No mathematical predictions at all. (Pi is not a measurement of curvature!) No experimental predictions, no experimental tests. It fails on every count. There is nothing here.

        Yes, pi can easily be used as a measurement of curvature. Go back and check your math. The ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter will change when you put it in a space with the Ricci tensor. Uninformed assertions are not questions. If you have questions feel free to ask. If your agenda is simply to push your conviction that a theory that you won't hear out must be wrong, because you've already decided before reading it that it conflicts with general relativity in a way that it shouldn't, then this is really not the place for those kinds of rants.

        Thanks for you questions. We shall continue our calculations and work (despite your suggestion that an already complete mathematical formulation is the only kind anyone should work on).

      • Jim λέει:

        If dimensions stretch in their own direction, how would one know they stretched?

        • Thad Roberts λέει:

          I'm not sure it means much to say that a dimension stretches in its own direction. To define “stretching” in a meaningful way we need to reference a property that changes in reference to another dimension. If you are pointing out that if the universe of x, y, z space has been stretching/expanding, in the way often visually modeled on a balloon to explain the redshift we measure and connect to dark energy, then you are right to point out that this popular model actually doesn't provide a coherent explanation of stretching. If, on the other hand, one region of space “stretched” more or less than another, it would leave geometric distortions (curvature) that could be detected.

  4. Me says:

    Rather than writing a lengthy response, allow me to just point out a number of falsehoods I have seen involved with QST, and ask how they are to be resolved.

    Pi represents the smallest amount of curvature possible in spacetime. (Russian character) represents the greatest amount.

    QST is 11 dimensions even though real space is 3 dimensions, the inside of the “bubbles” is 3 dimensions, and the space the “bubbles” move through is 3 dimensions, and there is nothing separating those regions from one another.

    Μια κβαντική κάτι είναι η μικρότερη δυνατή μονάδα αυτού του πράγματος. Μια κβαντική του χώρου είναι μια «φούσκα» πέρα ​​από το οποίο δεν υπάρχει ορισμός του χώρου. Ωστόσο, υπάρχει χώρος στο εσωτερικό των φυσαλίδων, με κάποιο τρόπο.

    Σοβαρότητα αναπαρίσταται ως η κλίση πυκνότητας του χώρου κβάντων. Αλλά η βαρύτητα προκαλείται από την ύλη. Η ύλη δεν είναι ο χώρος. Πώς αυτό κάνει ακόμα νόημα;

    Ο χρόνος είναι η resonation του χώρου κβάντα. Γιατί; Πώς; Ποια συλλογιστική αυτή καταλήγει σε αυτό το συμπέρασμα;

    Εάν υπάρχουν 11 διαστάσεις, γιατί δεν μπορούμε να τους δούμε; Θεωρία των Χορδών λέει ότι τα επιπλέον αυτά κουλουριασμένη εξαιρετικά μικρή. QST φαίνεται να έχουν επιπλέον διαστάσεις ακριβώς το είδος του ... επιπλέει εκεί έξω ...

    • Geo λέει:

      Επιτρέψτε μου να αναφερθώ σε αυτές τις ερωτήσεις όσο καλύτερα μπορώ ένα προς ένα:

      «Pi αντιπροσωπεύει το μικρότερο ποσό καμπυλότητας δυνατόν στο χωροχρόνο. (Ρωσική χαρακτήρας) αντιπροσωπεύει το μεγαλύτερο ποσό ».

      [Η ρωσική χαρακτήρας είναι το "Zhe"]

      Στη γενική σχετικότητα ο λόγος της περιφέρειας προς τη διάμετρο πηγαίνει στο μηδέν, όταν οι μαύρες τρύπες είναι στην περιοχή του οποίου η κυρτότητα που περιγράφεται (διότι ο παρονομαστής, η διάμετρος του κύκλου επικεντρώνεται σε μια μαύρη τρύπα, πηγαίνει στο άπειρο, αν ο χωροχρόνος είναι συνεχής και οι μαύρες τρύπες είναι μηδέν μεγέθους). Η κβαντομηχανική έχει ένα πρόβλημα με αυτό το άπειρο στον παρονομαστή. Αυτό έρχεται σε αντίθεση με τη γενική σχετικότητα σε αυτό το σημείο και διακόπτει την παροχή αυτή το άπειρο με τον ισχυρισμό του ότι η ελάχιστη απόσταση στο χώρο είναι το μήκος Planck. QST συμφωνεί με το αίτημα αυτό και η γεωμετρία του, μας προσφέρει έναν τρόπο για να προσδιοριστεί ποσοτικά μια έκφραση για τη μέγιστη καμπυλότητα που έχει συσταθεί με το ότι αποκοπεί. Γιατί είναι αυτό το ενδιαφέρον; Είναι ενδιαφέρον γιατί, αν είναι σωστό, τότε αυτό σημαίνει ότι υπάρχουν δύο αδιάστατες αριθμοί είναι συνυφασμένες με την γεωμετρική χάρτη του χωροχρόνου, σε συνδυασμό με τις πέντε αξίες Planck που προκύπτουν από την κβάντωση. Αυτό μας οδηγεί σε κάτι ακόμη πιο ενδιαφέρον ... Ό, τι κι αυτό το άλλο γεωμετρικό αριθμός, η αξία του πρέπει να είναι μεταξύ μηδέν και πίν. Στένωση προς τα κάτω υπάρχει πιο έντονη η προσδοκία ότι θα είναι μεταξύ 0 και 0,7. Έτσι, ο ισχυρισμός του εν λόγω γεωμετρικού μοντέλου είναι ότι δεν υπάρχει κάποιος αριθμός μεταξύ 0 και 0,7 που μπορούν να συνδυαστούν με τα 5 Planck παραμέτρους, και pi, να nonarbitrarily παράγουν ή "κωδικοποιούν" τις γεωμετρικές αποτελέσματα που είναι εγγενείς στον χωροχρόνο - οι σταθερές του Φύση. Όπως αποδεικνύεται υπάρχει ένας τέτοιος αριθμός, και συμβαίνει να πέσει σε αυτή την περιοχή. (Δείτε τις σταθερές της φύσης σελίδα σε αυτό το site.) Αυτό είναι αρκετά σημαντικές ώστε να δικαιολογούν τις τρέχουσες προσπάθειες για να αντλήσει θεωρητικά την ακριβή τιμή του αριθμού αυτού από την γεωμετρική εκτιμήσεις.

      "QST είναι 11 διαστάσεις, ακόμη και αν ο χώρος είναι πραγματικό 3 διαστάσεις, το εσωτερικό των« φούσκες »είναι 3 διαστάσεις, και ο χώρος της" φυσαλίδες "κινούνται μέσα είναι 3 διαστάσεις, και δεν υπάρχει τίποτα που χωρίζει αυτές τις περιφέρειες από το ένα το άλλο.

      Μια κβαντική κάτι είναι η μικρότερη δυνατή μονάδα αυτού του πράγματος. Μια κβαντική του χώρου είναι μια «φούσκα» πέρα ​​από το οποίο δεν υπάρχει ορισμός του χώρου. Ωστόσο, υπάρχει χώρος στο εσωτερικό των φυσαλίδων, με κάποιο τρόπο. "

      Δεν είμαι σίγουρος ότι καταλαβαίνω αυτή την ερώτηση (σωστά), αλλά θα πάρω ένα πλήγμα σε αυτό. Η πρώτη παράγραφος είναι το είδος του τι είναι QST το αξίωμα, με αρκετές σημαντικές επιφυλάξεις. Πρώτον, ο χώρος μεταξύ της καθημερινής μας κβάντα του χώρου δεν είναι χώρος per se, αναφερόμαστε σε αυτό ως superspace, και παρομοίως ο χώρος εντός του χώρου των κβάντα αναφέρεται ως intraspace. Εάν ο χώρος κβαντώνεται αυτών σε άλλους χώρους (σούπερ και ενδο) δηλωτικό (αν το επιτρέπει η κβαντική του χώρου είναι ένας όγκος παρά ένα σημείο). Εάν η κβάντα του χώρου είναι σε όγκους πραγματικότητα, οι δύο άλλες σειρές «χώρους» είναι αναγκαίες και διακριτή από το κανονικό διάστημα. Η αναλογία του μπαρ του χρυσού έρχεται στο μυαλό. Αν χωρίσετε ένα μπαρ του χρυσού προς τα κάτω προς το μικρότερο συστατικά του, τα συστατικά που μπορούν ακόμα να θεωρηθούν χρυσό, θα φτάσουμε σε ένα σημείο όπου θα μπορούσαν να συνεχίσουν να διαχωρίσει τα συστατικά (τα άτομα σε αυτή την περίπτωση) περαιτέρω, αλλά αυτό που προκύπτει από αυτή την περαιτέρω διάσπαση μπορεί να πλέον να θεωρείται ο χρυσός. Σε αυτή την αναλογία, θα έχουν ξεπεράσει την έννοια του "χρυσού" από τη διάσπαση του ατόμου του χρυσού, αλλά, όπως γνωρίζουμε σήμερα, υπάρχει ένα πάρα πολύ περισσότερο διάσπαση που μπορεί να γίνει. Μπορείτε δεν μπορεί να υπολογίζει μονάδες χρυσού από την καταμέτρηση νετρόνια, για παράδειγμα. Καλή ερώτηση όμως. Πάλη με το ζήτημα αυτό αποτελεί τον πυρήνα της κατανόησης του τι σημαίνει να πω ότι το ύφασμα του x, y, z χώρος είναι κβαντισμένη. Το υπόλοιπο της εικόνας δεν θα έχει νόημα μέχρι αυτό διαισθητικά απορροφηθεί. Είναι αυτό να πάρει σε ό, τι ζητάς;

      "Gravity αναπαρίσταται ως η κλίση πυκνότητας του χώρου κβάντων. Αλλά η βαρύτητα προκαλείται από την ύλη. Η ύλη δεν είναι ο χώρος. Πώς αυτό κάνει ακόμα νόημα; "

      Πρώτα απ 'όλα, ναι, απολύτως, η βαρύτητα αναπαρίσταται ως η κλίση πυκνότητας του χώρου κβάντων. Το ερώτημα που θα μπορούσε να προσπαθεί να πάρει, τι προκαλεί αυτές τις διαφορές πυκνότητας για να σχηματίσουν; Όταν οι διαφορές πυκνότητας κβάντα ραβδί μαζί δημιουργηθεί γύρω από τις εν λόγω ομίλους. Όλες οι μορφές ενέργειας που εκδηλώνονται σε x, y, z, t είναι απλά γεωμετρικά στρεβλώσεις στο χωροχρόνο. Πυκνότητα κύματα θα μπορούσε να διοχετευτεί το μέσο - αυτός είναι ένας τρόπος για να υποστηριχθεί μια γεωμετρική παραμόρφωση. (Κάτι τέτοιο θα ήταν να πούμε ότι έχουν ενέργεια που ισοδυναμεί με κάποιο ποσό μάζα ηρεμίας, αλλά δεν μπορεί να υπάρχει στην ίδια κατάσταση ηρεμίας.) Ένας άλλος τρόπος είναι να έχουμε μια σταθερή γεωμετρική παραμόρφωση είναι να έχουμε τα κβάντα που έχουν κολλήσει. Μόλις μια ομάδα κβάντων είναι κολλημένα μεταξύ τους, οι μεμονωμένες κβάντα γύρω από αυτό, κινείται γύρω και, για το μεγαλύτερο μέρος, ellastically αλληλεπιδρούν, θα σχηματίσουν μία κλίση πυκνότητας εξαιτίας της διατήρησης ορμής. Μια ενιαία κβάντα πρόσκρουση σε δύο θα φύγουν οι δύο κινούνται πολύ πιο αργή από ό, τι το αρχικό. Βραδύτερη προτάσεις επικεντρώνονται γύρω από τη συστάδα, και, πιο αργή κινήσεις δημιουργούν μεγαλύτερες πυκνότητες. Έτσι σταθερού αποτελέσματος μιας μόνιμης, ή τουλάχιστον σταθερό γεωμετρικό στρεβλώσεις, όπως κβάντα κολλήσουν μεταξύ τους, είναι η μάζα σε αυτό το μοντέλο.

      "Ο χρόνος είναι ο resonation του χώρου κβάντα. Γιατί; Πώς; Ποια συλλογιστική αυτή καταλήγει σε αυτό το συμπέρασμα; "

      Αυτό είναι ένα μεγάλο θέμα και θα μπορούσε να χρησιμοποιήσει λίγο περισσότερο την έρευνα. Όπως έχουν τα πράγματα σήμερα, θα μπορούσαμε να πούμε ότι το γεγονός ότι η οικεία χρονική διάσταση καλούμε να προχωρούν με διαφορετικό ρυθμό δείχνει ότι ο χρόνος που συνδέεται με μία ειδική κίνηση, αντί του συνόλου των κινήσεων. Τι είναι αυτή η κίνηση; Σύμφωνα με QST ότι η κίνηση είναι οι αντηχήσεις του χώρου κβάντα. Αυτό μας δίνει ένα τρόπο για να έχουν οντολογική σαφήνεια για το τι σημαίνει ακόμη και να πω ότι λιγότερο χρόνο έχει περάσει σε μία περιοχή από τον άλλο. Ένας τέτοιος ισχυρισμός είναι μάλλον ασυνάρτητο χωρίς κάτι για σύγκριση. Με άλλα λόγια, χωρίς τέτοιου είδους εξήγηση που εξακολουθούν να τρέχουν στο πρόβλημα που παντού στο σύμπαν περνά χρόνο με ρυθμό ενός δευτερολέπτου ανά δευτερόλεπτο. Αυτό είναι μια μεγάλη πηγή σύγχυσης, εκτός αν η σύγκριση σας δεν είναι αυτο-στοχαστική. Εδώ θα γίνει σε θέση να κατανοήσουν την εξέλιξη του χρόνου, σε όλες τις θέσεις στο χώρο, ως κάτι που μπορεί να οριστεί σε σχέση με supertime. Αυτό χρειάζεται πολύ περισσότερη κατάρτιση, αλλά είναι σίγουρα μια πολύτιμη αρχή.

      "Αν υπάρχουν 11 διαστάσεις, γιατί δεν μπορούμε να τους δούμε; Θεωρία των Χορδών λέει ότι τα επιπλέον αυτά κουλουριασμένη εξαιρετικά μικρή. QST φαίνεται να έχουν επιπλέον διαστάσεις ακριβώς το είδος του ... επιπλέει εκεί έξω ... "

      Πρώτα απ 'όλα, θα πρέπει να σημειωθεί ότι η θεωρία χορδών λόγος για τους οποίους δεν μπορούμε να δούμε αυτές τις επιπλέον διαστάσεις είναι ακριβώς η ίδια σε QST. Στην πραγματικότητα, μπορούμε να δούμε τα αποτελέσματά ότι η ύπαρξη αυτών των διαστάσεων υπαγορεύουν. Βάλτε τον άλλο τρόπο γύρω βλέπουμε αποτελέσματα που μπλέκοντας σε εμάς (κβαντομηχανική, γενικά, και μερικά άλλα) και δεν βρίσκουν λύση ή αιτία, εκτός αν έχουμε διαισθανθεί επιπλέον διαστάσεις. Αυτή η ερώτηση δεν διαχωρίζει QST από τη θεωρία χορδών. Αυτές οι άλλες διαστάσεις θα είναι πλήρως ορατή, αν θα μπορούσαμε να δούμε τα πράγματα από το μήκος Planck. Αλλά δεν μπορούμε (ακόμα;). Γι 'αυτό και δεν τους βλέπουμε.

      Ελπίζω ότι αυτό τουλάχιστον αποσαφηνιστούν τα πράγματα λίγο. Παρακαλώ επιτρέψτε μου να ξέρω αν έχω παρερμηνεύσει τις ερωτήσεις σας.

      • Jon λέει:

        Έχω μερικές ερωτήσεις. Αν κατάλαβα αυτό το δικαίωμα, αυτή η θεωρία θα μπορούσε να προβλέψει ότι η θρυλική γκραβιτόνιο δεν θα βρεθεί ποτέ, σωστά; Διότι, αν η βαρύτητα δεν είναι μια δύναμη, τότε δεν θα υπάρχει κανένα σωματίδιο δεν ισχύει, έτσι δεν είναι; Επίσης, πώς το πεδίο Higgs τίθεται σε όλο αυτό; Δεν βλέπω πραγματικά δωματίου για αυτό σε αυτό το μοντέλο, αλλά και πάλι δεν είμαι φυσικός. Μπορείτε να μας διευκρινίσετε;

        • Thad Roberts λέει:

          Jon,
          Ναι έχεις δίκιο, αυτό δεν προβλέπουν ότι το γκραβιτόνιο δεν υπάρχει. Όσο για το άλλο σας ερώτημα, έχω δημοσιεύτηκε μια απάντηση στον Πέτρο στην ενότητα «Ερωτήσεις και απαντήσεις» που πρέπει να ξεκαθαρίσει το θέμα με το πεδίο Higgs για εσάς. :-) Αν εξακολουθείτε να έχετε ερωτήσεις μετά την ανάγνωση ότι παρακαλώ επιτρέψτε μου να ξέρω.

  5. Phyn λέει:

    Το πρώτο πράγμα που πρέπει να πω είναι ότι νομίζω ότι είναι φοβερό ότι Thad σκέφτηκε αυτή τη θεωρία και την προωθεί. Αυτό το είδος της σκέψης προς τα εμπρός είναι απαραίτητη στον τομέα της φυσικής αυτές τις μέρες, και εγώ ελπίζω να κάνει το ίδιο και στο μέλλον.

    Είναι σίγουρα μια ενδιαφέρουσα θεωρία, αλλά έχω μερικά προβλήματα με αυτό το βίντεο, τουλάχιστον (μερικοί μπορεί να προκύψουν από την άγνοιά μου):

    1. Thad υποστηρίζει ότι η γενική ερμηνεία του 4ου χωρική διάσταση είναι εξίσου ένα μαθηματικό τέχνασμα να λογοδοτήσουν για τη βαρύτητα. Αλλά αυτή είναι μια ψευδής δήλωση. Οι περισσότεροι φυσικοί κάνουν τη δουλειά που δεν επηρεάζεται από το αν η βαρύτητα είναι μια δύναμη ή μια άλλη διάσταση. Έτσι, μπορούν να χρησιμοποιήσουν μια λανθασμένη ερμηνεία, αλλά επειδή θα περιέπλεκε απλώς τα πράγματα γι 'αυτούς, χωρίς να κάνει τίποτα γι' αυτούς. Οι φυσικοί που εργάζονται με το χώρο-χρόνο, οι αστροφυσικοί και οι κοσμολόγοι, χρειάζεται να γνωρίζουμε τι ακριβώς είναι και η βαρύτητα κάνουν καθορίζουν τη βαρύτητα σαν την 4η χωρική διάσταση, δεν είναι μια δύναμη.

    2. Μάζα στρεβλώνει τον 4ο χωρική διάσταση. Έτσι, χρησιμοποιώντας τη μεταφορά του βάρους στρέβλωση τραμπολίνο είναι απολύτως έγκυρη.

    3. Thad ισχυρίζεται ότι οι φυσαλίδες μήκος Planck μετακινούνται. Γιατί; Δεν θα έπρεπε να είναι ένα χώρος άκαμπτη δομή, ένα πλέγμα; Αν τα κβάντα του χώρου κινούνται σαν σωματίδια του αέρα, θα υπακούουν κάτι παρόμοιο με την στατιστική μηχανική. Αυτό σημαίνει ότι υπάρχει μια μη αμελητέα πιθανότητα να έχουν μεγάλες μάζες των κβάντων και μεγάλα τμήματα που λείπουν κάθε χώρο σε όλα. Και με τον ορισμό Thad του χρόνου αυτές οι ενότητες θα κινούνται επίσης γρήγορα ή πιο αργά μέσα στο χρόνο. Σημειώνεται ότι τα τμήματα αυτά θα προκύψουν για κανέναν λόγο καθόλου, εκτός από την πιθανολογική φύση των κβάντα του χωροχρόνου κινείται γύρω και πρόσκρουση σε κάθε άλλο. Αυτό σίγουρα δεν έχουμε δει στο σύμπαν.

    4. επιχείρημα Thad για επιπλέον διαστάσεις έχει μια ασυνέπεια. Αν το μήκος Planck είναι η μικρότερη απόσταση που μπορεί να μετρηθεί ή να οριστεί, δεν έχει νόημα να καθορίσει νέες διαστάσεις για να εξηγήσει τη θέση σε μικρότερη κλίμακα Planck. Σημαίνουν τίποτα τόσο ανθρώπινο, μαθηματικό επίπεδο και στο επίπεδο της φυσικής του σύμπαντος.

    5. Αντιλαμβάνομαι ότι υπάρχει πολύ περισσότερο με αυτή τη θεωρία, αλλά Thad αδυνατεί να εξηγήσει πώς και γιατί ύλη και την ενέργεια όπως την βλέπουμε τώρα επηρεάζουν την κβάντα του χώρου. Υποθέτω αυτό εξηγείται περαιτέρω στη θεωρία. Επίσης, πώς το φως ταιριάζει σε αυτή τη θεωρία; Φως ταξιδεύει πάντα με C, αν και με αυτή τη θεωρία, που θα δείχνουν ότι το φως είναι κατά κάποιον τρόπο ξεχωριστό από αυτό το χώρο 11 διαστάσεων. (Προσωπικά, δεν έχω κανένα πρόβλημα με αυτήν την ιδέα και είχε το ίδιο σκεφτεί τον εαυτό μου. Αλλά δεν πρέπει να καταχωρούνται.)

    6. Εάν η κλίμακα Planck είναι το μήκος τόσο πολύ μικρότερη από ό, τι οποιαδήποτε σωματίδια, πώς είναι δυνατόν για την κβαντική διάνοιξη σηράγγων να συμβεί; Φαίνεται πολύ απίθανο για ένα ηλεκτρόνιο για να μετακινηθείτε μέσα από υπερ-χώρο, χωρίς να χτυπήσει άλλο κβάντα του χώρου για μια απόσταση πάνω από 10 τάξεις μεγέθους μεγαλύτερο από το μήκος Planck. Σίγουρα, αυτό μπορεί να συμβεί κάθε τώρα και στη συνέχεια, αλλά η πιθανότητα αυτή είναι πολύ μικρότερη από ό, τι φαίνεται τώρα.

  6. Thad Roberts λέει:

    Phyn,

    Σας ευχαριστώ για τα σχόλια και τις ερωτήσεις σας. Επιτρέψτε μου να προσπαθήσω να αντιμετωπίσει μερικά από τα σχόλιά σας όσο καλύτερα μπορώ.

    1. Τα σχόλιά μου σχετικά με τη βαρύτητα που αναφέρεστε ήταν γραφτό να γίνει σε σχέση με ένα οπτικό μοντέλο της βαρύτητας, για να μην τις εξισώσεις οι φυσικοί χρησιμοποιούν σε αυτό ή να εκπροσωπεί ό, τι έχουν στην κατοχή τους για να είναι αληθινό για τη βαρύτητα. Επειδή έχουν εργαστεί για τόσο καιρό κάτω από τους περιορισμούς της Ευκλείδειας (ή ακόμη και μη Ευκλείδεια αλλά συνεχή) μετρήσεις, οι φυσικοί χρησιμοποιούν μειωμένη τρισδιάστατη απεικόνιση. Έχετε δίκιο όταν επισημαίνει ότι αυτό δεν σημαίνει ότι δεν αποδίδουν την ύπαρξη της βαρύτητας να είναι το αποτέλεσμα μιας αλληλεπίδρασης με μια άλλη διάσταση του χώρου. Αυτό που είμαι μετά είναι μια διαισθητική και ακριβές μοντέλο, μια νέα παράσταση, για τη γεωμετρία της φύσης που μας δίνει πλήρη διαισθητική πρόσβαση σε πράγματα που έχουμε αυτή τη στιγμή δεν έχουμε διαισθητική πρόσβαση. Με άλλα λόγια, το θέμα μου είναι ότι τα διαγράμματα της «φύλλο καουτσούκ» δεν μας δώσει πλήρη διαισθητική πρόσβαση σε ό, τι είναι η βαρύτητα, γιατί έχει τις ιδιότητες που έχει, και ούτω καθεξής. Στόχος μου είναι να καταλήξουμε σε ένα μοντέλο που μας δίνει ότι η πρόσβαση.

    2. Η έννοια του βάρους παίζει δυστυχώς μακριά από τη διαίσθησή μας, που κάτι με το βάρος τραβιέται κάτω από τη βαρύτητα. Είμαι απολύτως εντάξει με το ρητό ότι η παρουσία της μάζας στρεβλώνει το τραμπολίνο, αλλά μόλις λέμε να την εκπροσώπησή μας βασίζεται στην ιδέα ότι είναι το βάρος του που στρεβλώνει το τραμπολίνο, έχουμε χρησιμοποιήσει τώρα κάποια έννοια της βαρύτητας (βάρος είναι ίσο με δύναμη της βαρύτητας πολλαπλασιαζόμενη επί τη μάζα) σε απάντησή μας για το τι είναι η βαρύτητα. Αυτό μειώνει τη χρησιμότητα της απάντησης μας. Αυτό ήταν το θέμα μου. Δεν είμαι κοροϊδεύοντας την αξία του τραμπολίνο με οποιονδήποτε τρόπο. Μου αρέσει ότι είναι μια προσπάθεια να είναι ένα μοντέλο που μπορούμε να έχουμε πρόσβαση σε τουλάχιστον εν μέρει να αποκτήσει μια διαισθητική κατανόηση του πώς λειτουργεί η βαρύτητα. Είμαι απλά ψάχνουν για ένα μοντέλο που πηγαίνει λίγο παραπέρα.

    3. Τεχνικά Δεν είμαι πραγματικά ζητούν τίποτα (ούτε οποιοσδήποτε άλλος εργάζεται για QST). Είμαστε, όμως, υποθέτοντας για τη γεωμετρία του χωροχρόνου και βλέποντας όπου η υπόθεση μας, μας οδηγεί. Θέτουμε μερικά αξιώματα για το χώρο και τον έλεγχο για να δούμε αν αυτά τα αξιώματα δημιουργήσει ένα σύστημα το οποίο περιέχει φυσικά αυτό που έχουμε σήμερα ονομάζουμε μυστήριο. Ως επιστήμονες να καταλάβουν ότι την τρέχουσα σειρά μας των αξιωμάτων θα μπορούσε να αποδειχθεί λανθασμένη, αλλά μέχρι στιγμής δεν μας οδηγούν σε κάτι αρκετά ελπιδοφόρα. Επιπλέον, πιστεύουμε ότι, όπως φαίνεται, ότι ακόμη και αν καταλήξουμε αποδεικνύει ότι η ομάδα μας των αξιωμάτων δεν μιμούνται την κατασκευή του ιστού της Φύσης, εξερευνώντας νέες ιδέες είναι που η επιστήμη είναι όλα σχετικά. Σωστό ή λάθος, υπάρχουν πολλά να μάθουμε από τη διαδικασία που έχουμε αναλάβει.

    Έχετε δίκιο σε σημειώνοντας ότι τρέχουσες υποθέσεις μας σχετικά με τη δομή των x, y, z χώρο απεικονίζει την κβάντα κινείται γύρω, το οποίο κάνει κάτι εκπροσώπηση της μοιάζει με την στατιστική μηχανική (εξ ου και οι πολλές κβαντομηχανικής που βλέπουμε στη φύση). Είμαι περίεργος ως προς γιατί νομίζετε ότι η δομή του χωροχρόνου θα πρέπει με κάποιο τρόπο να περιορίζεται στο να είναι ένα άκαμπτο πλέγμα. Στο τέλος ίσως να έχετε δίκιο για το χωροχρόνο που έχει αυτή την ιδιότητα, αλλά σε αυτό το σημείο δεν βλέπω το λόγο να αναλάβει αυτό ως μια ωμή contraint. Also, the point you made about having sections of space that will evolve at different rates through time is absolutely correct, however it only applies to very small scales (unless a macroscopic density gradient is present = curved spacetime). As we move to macroscopic scales (like 10^-25 meters, or 10^-34 seconds) these effects are washed out for the same statistical reasons you pointed out earlier.

    4. I apologize if I misspoke or caused a confusion on this point. In our system the Planck length is defined as the smallest quantum unit of x, y, z. Just as a gold atom is the smalls unit of a chance of gold, a quantum of space is the smallest unit of any x, y, z volume. It does makes sense to talk about less than one gold atom, or to visualize splitting a gold atom, but it does not makes sense to continue calling what you end up with a fraction of a gold atom. Once you go smaller than one gold atom you have transcended the definition of gold. You do not have gold any more in any sense. At this point you are forced to recognize that what you have is something completely different from gold. The same applies for our geometric system. Since we have set up an axiom space that defines the medium of x, y, z as being composed of quanta, comprised of base units, we cannot talk about smaller units and still be talking about anything in the x, y, z realm. This, however, does not inhibit us from talking about something smaller. It just requires that when we do we recognize that we are talking about something else. In as much as we are talking about spatial dimensions, positions within a single quanta occupy different superspatial positions, but those different positions do not reflect upon the x, y, z metric. The geometry is quite interesting mathematically because it is a wholly invertible map. In other words, it is a perfect geometric fractal. As it turns out, this system also appears to comes with a few properties (like the statistical character you mentioned before) that are quite suggestive of quantum mechanical effects.

    5. Μεγάλη ερωτήσεις. As a short answer: matter is any stable (on whatever scale you choose to define as long enough to count as “stable”) distortions in the geometric arrangements of space quanta. For example, if two quanta stick together like bubbles for a long period of time before being separated by other collisions, then they represent a geometric kink for that period of time. This kind is mass. Energy can be thought of as distortions that are not stable without propagation. A density wave for example can travel from point A to point B and be thought of as stable during propagation, but it cannot retain itself without propagating through the medium.

    Light does always travel at c, in the x, y, z medium. Wave speeds of a particular medium change as the density, pressure, temperature of that medium change. So from the eleven dimensional perspective waves that travel through the medium will be resolved as having speeds that depend upon the density of that medium. However, compared to the medium itself this speed is non-variable. In other words, from the internal x, y, z perspective the speed of light is a constant. Perhaps I am missing the thrust of your point/question. Please elaborate if I have not addressed your concern.

    6. Technically the electron is defined as having a zero sized radius. Since quantum mechanics restricts the minimum size to the Planck length we might think that “zero” really means one Planck length. I'm not sure where I stand on this specifically. But I will say that the probability for electrons to sail through the medium without interacting much is quite large if it is even close to one Planck length.

    Thank you for your insights, thoughts and questions. I personally wish you luck as you pursue your own development of a TOE. If you keep asking questions like these I'm sure you'll make a big impact on the world.

    Thad

    • Phyn says:

      Thad,

      Thanks for the quick response and clearing up my comments/questions. I do have a few more about your reply. (I'll try to number them to match the previous numbers)

      3. This might just be from my lack of knowledge/experience, but isn't there a non-negligible probability (using statistical mechanics) that a region could form with a very high density of space quanta or a very low density? Looking back I realize now the probability of such a region forming on any detectable scale is highly unlikely, but there is some chance. So there could be a region or regions in the universe that act like a black hole (or the inverse of that) without any energy or mass having caused it. Or am I stretching how likely such an event would be?

      4. I think what I was trying to ask with this question is why the three dimensions that are defined within the quanta are necessary?

      5. My questions about light basically pertains to how light is different than matter in your theory. If light also travels through super-space and space quanta, why is it still seen as traveling at c at any velocity the observer is at? As I understand it, the reason light always travels at c is because special relativity has an asymptotic behavior. Time dilation and space contraction go to infinity as velocity goes to c. I can see that in your theory the behavior would be exponential, but it's not clear to me why it would also be asymptotic. Light would still pass from space quanta to super-space to space quanta, so wouldn't it still experience some time and space? Sorry if I'm not being clear.

      Also, I was wondering about how your theory fits with super-inflation theory. Can space quanta be created/destroyed? I assume not and if so does that mean the universe before super-inflation was in a sense a super black hole? In this theory was super-inflation just an expansion if these very dense region of space quanta? Or do you have some other explanation? Along similar lines, do space quanta have a speed limit? If they do, what is it? If it is c how would you account for the super-inflation event?

      Ευχαριστώ και πάλι,
      Phyn

  7. Thad Roberts λέει:

    Phyn,

    Great questions. :-)

    3. Yes, due to vacuum energy there is some probability that matter, or for that matter even a macroscopic black hole, could form without any previous forms of matter leading to its formation. However, to say that it formed without any energy having caused it may be a bit of a stretch. If we restrict our definition of energy to specific forms, like light or baryonic matter, then we can say that. But such a restriction seems a bit artificial to me. The inherent energy of the quanta of space bouncing around and interacting with each other would be responsible.

    4. Within a quantized metric the three intra-spatial dimensions are necessary for defining position more accurately than x, y, z dimensions allow. On a more metaphysical level (the philosophical definition of metaphysical not the new age one) they also allow us to access the actual structure of the Universe and how that structure is responsible for how things are. If we ignored them then we would be missing part of the picture. And interpreting a system from a reduced construction can lead to confusion. Technically the eleven-dimensional construction is also only an approximation. The next level of increased accuracy is a axiomatic metric of 30 dimensions, then 85, then 248 and so on. The full picture unveils as a fractal, and that full structure gives us even richer access to questions that reach beyond the confines of our local system (the Universe = all the space connected by the last Big Bang).

    5. This question is rich and worth some time. Perhaps you would be interested in reading the preprint of my book? Chapter 8 – The Speed of Spacetime explains in detail why the speed of light is constant according to this geometry, and why Lorentz contraction and time dilation occur. Your question might be more fully addressed in there.

    If I am understanding your question correctly, then it might be worth pointing out that according to the definitions set up in our construction a quantum of space does not experience time expect in whole number increments of the Planck time. However, the quanta do still experience supertime as they move through superspace. This means that things can move from quanta to quanta as we the observers move through time, but since the passing from one quanta to another involves the elastic properties of the quanta (and so does the passage of time), the fastest something can move through x, y, z space is such that the number of quanta it has moved is equal to the number of chronons in time that the observer has aged. This thing/energy moves through x, y, z space but it does not move through time (because it does not experience any independent resonations). It changes position in space and the observer moves through time by an equivalent number of quantum values. So anything moving in this fashion does move through space, and then superspace, space, superspace, and so on, and all along through supertime, but it does NOT move through time. It does, however experience supertime. Is that what you were getting at?

    Also, as per your question about inflation… I believe that qst does not have expectations that space ban be created or destroyed. The Big Bang, in this model, occurs because another universe outside of the system of our universe collides with our universe. The structure of our universe (the arrangements of the quanta of space) is altered in response to this such that all of the quanta are pressed together. The complete system is a collection in which there are no independently acting quanta (hence it acts as though there were only one location in the entire Universe and of course no time). This is very close to the picture of a black hole, only a real black hole forms internally from a loss of energy, this forms from energy from outside the system so it is not a stable configuration. Then, when the two systems rebound off of each other their internal constituents begin to separate, causing there to be more than one uniquely acting location within each. So each universe goes from having effectively one unique location and no time to having many many uniquely behaving locations and some time in a very short burst (whether you measure it by time or supertime). Chapter 29 deals with this topic in much greater detail should you desire to read it.

    Ελπίζω ότι βοηθά.

    Please remember, even if this theory eventually ends up jiving very well with what we know so far, and gives us more of an explanation that any other construction, it doesn't mean that it is right or that we shouldn't all keep asking questions and thinking up new ways of seeing things. Climbing beyond our current edge of understanding is what it is all about.

    • Phyn says:

      Thad,

      Thanks for the answers. I think that clears up the questions I have right now. I just requested a pre-print copy of the book and can't wait to delve deeper into this theory. And I completely agree that we always need to keep questioning.

      Phyn

  8. Stephen says:

    This question is for Thad, or for whomever can answer it. I'm really impressed with all of this. It's definitely very convincing and I'm really looking forward to seeing how this is either supported or refuted within the scientific community. The main question I have though, is how does QST play into the emergence of the forces during the first moments of the Big Bang? I know that theoretical physics holds that the fundamental forces emerged as a consequence of the Big Bang and were not immediately present at the inception of the universe. I'm just wondering if QST affords a comprehensive explanation for this. If there is would you mind sharing that with me? Also, if there isn't a comprehensive explanation, could you explain how they figure that the fundamental forces were not present at the genesis of the universe?

    Also, I've been searching the web and haven't really been able to find a lot on QST other than on your website. I'm just wondering why such an interesting idea hasn't taken hold in the scientific community and why no one has openly talked about this theory of yours. Do you know why this is the case? I'd love to hear more about this. I've been gobbling up your website watched both your conversation pieces and the TED talk, which will hopefully make these ideas more public, and I'm really excited by the prospects of QST and what it can mean for the breadth of human knowledge.

    • Thad Roberts λέει:

      Dear Stephen,

      Thank you for your message.

      First off, let me apologize for the late response. I have been at the bottom of the Grand Canyon, exploring a land full of mysteries and beauty. It was an amazing experience.

      In response to your questions:

      We share your excitement and curiosity about this theory, and look forward to seeing how it with be either supported or refuted by science. We might, however, point out that this is different from being excited about refutation or support from the current scientific community. Because science is made up of a compilation of research programs, it is an active social entity – carrying several social pressures that can lead it astray in any given point in time. Nevertheless, because science is a self-correcting machine, over the long haul it will correct itself toward a more clear and accurate picture. That is to say that if the current climate in the scientific community was such that it immediately accepted qst, this would not in and of itself provide concrete support that qst is an accurate reflection of Nature. Neither would its immediate rejection (there are several historical examples of theories that we now accept that were rejected by the scientific community at large in the time (and social climate) that they were first proposed in). What really matters is – does qst accurately map the true structure of Nature? We are hopeful that we will secure a clear, non-biased answer to that question in time.

      You asked how qst plays into the emergence of the forces during the first moments of the Big Bang… The answer is a beautiful example of how qst gives us incredible intuitive access to rather complex ideas. First, let me note that current thought suggests that as we run the clock back toward the Big Bang, there are symmetries that go from broken to unbroken. Translating this into English, this means that as we approach that first moment we go from having distinctly recognizable forces (four of them) to forces that merge in their descriptions. As we approach the first moment (after the Big Bang) all four forces gain complete symmetry with the background metric. They can no longer be teased apart in this state. This special axiomatic state of the Universe is responsible for the fact that the forces are no longer indistinguishable from the metric.

      In qst, this situation is made more clear. In this model it is suggested that in that first moment, all the quanta that make up our universe were compressed together (by an external collision by another universe). Because of this there were no uniquely acting quanta (locations) in the universe in this moment. The whole collection acted like a singularity, but instead of reaching this state by losing energy and maximizing entropy, it represented a highly energetic state with minimal entropy (because of its external cause). Because all the quanta acted in unison, there was in effect, only one unique x, y, z location at this point in time. The significant result of this geometric condition (as per our current discussion), is that it was not possible to have spatial density gradients in this moment, nor was it possible to have any waves propagating through the x, y, z medium, or little whirlpools of mixing, etc. The entire axiomatic set of quanta were rigidly locked together. This is why there were no distinguishable forces from the background metric. As the rebound occurred, and the quanta that make up the x, y, z volume of our universe began to separate, the number of independently acting locations in the universe exponentially multiplied, and the geometric distortions that we refer to as forces became geometrically possible.

      Please let me know if that helped.

      About your question about why qst has not taken hold in the scientific community yet… a little background might help here. Scientific progress is a messy thing. In part, this has to do with the demarcation problem (the task of being able to identify scientific endeavors from pseudoscientific endeavors). Karl Popper famously tried to help speed science along, and overcome this problem, with the suggestion that what makes something science is that it is falsifiable. This has been a popular criterion of science ever since. I am certainly drawn towards the claim that a theoretical construct should make claims that can be falsified before we put our full trust into it. However, as has been pointed out, Popper's criterion cannot actually distinguish scientific endeavors from pseudoscientific ones. There are fields that we all feel comfortable labeling pseudoscientific that make falsifiable claims. But more importantly, all fields considered scientific rest on axioms, assumptions, and non-falsifiable statements that play a fundamental role in their construction. If we are expected to abandon all theories that contain non-falsifiable statements, then there would be no identifiable sciences at all. In response to this some have grasped for the idea that there is some sort of art to picking the axioms beneath a theory – those that perform that art too loosely fall out of the range of science. This idea lead Thomas Kuhn to conjecture that what it meant to be scientific was to conform to the current scientific paradigm. In this view science becomes merely a social construct that shifts with the tides of time. Paul Feyerabend and Imre Lakatos later wrestled with these issues and came to the conclusion that science is not an autonomous form of reasoning, but is inseparable from the larger body of human thought and inquiry. They determined that because science is a human endeavor questions of truth and falsity are not uniquely empirical.

      All of this has led to the general recognition that the demarcation problem is intractable. In response Paul Thagard has suggested that we alter our focus and deem a theory as non-scientific if it satisfies the following two conditions:

      1 – It is unpromising: The theory has been less progressive than alternative theories over a long period of time, and faces many unsolved problems: and
      2 – It doesn't adhere to the Scientific Method: The community of practitioners makes little attempt to develop the theory towards solutions of the problems, shows no concern for attempts to evaluate the theory in relation to others, and is selective in considering confirmations and disconfirmations.

      Note that the first criteria requires long periods of time.

      Certainly, in reference to this evaluation qst is in a scientific vein. However, according to this criteria a “long period of time” must pass before we can expect it to have secured a place for itself in scientific history.

      Cutting through all of this philosophy of science, I suspect that the answer to your question has a lot to do with the fact that the majority of practicing scientists are not fully aware of the intricacies of theory construction, or the full history of the demarcation problem. Many scientists have communicated with me about the value they see in this theory. Others have found this theory objectionable based on an emotional fear that it might disagree with currently popular agendas. For some reason these individuals try to undermine the credibility of qst by resting on Popper's falsifiability requirement, which I find strange since there are many many ways in which qst can be falsified.

      All in all, however, I believe that the biggest reason qst has not yet taken off to a mainstream platform is that it is new. We simply need to give it more time and keep spreading the word. It may also have a bit of a harder time taking off than we might expect because it was mostly developed during some intense years of research while I was in prison. Nevertheless, I am confident in the self-correcting method of science, and I believe that it will eventually fully evaluate the richness of this theory.

      Just before he passed away, I was in communication with Benoît Mandelbrot, the father of fractals. We discussed the fractal structure of qst and he granted it his blessing to the idea. Mandelbrot was a man that gave the world a new idea, and he gave it to them in a non-traditional way. After professional scientists outright rejected his idea, Mandelbrot continued to develop his insight and share his idea until its practical powers were undenyable. The world at large became familiar with fractals and began to use them in electronic designs, biological calculations, and more. Then and only then, did the research program of formal Mathematics accept the importance of Mandelbrot's ideas. The lesson I take from this is that, if an idea is useful and brings us closer to the truth, it will eventually be heard.

      Ευχαριστω για το ενδιαφερον.

      Also, if you want to read more, I'd be happy to email you pre-print pdf copy of the entire book.

      Με εκτίμηση,
      Thad

      • Stephen says:

        Thanks Thad, this is immensely illuminating. I have to repeat that I'm really excited by the prospect of this theory. Murray Gell-Mann says that “there is a common experience in theoretical physics: that BEAUTY is often a very succesful criterion for choosing the right theory” and there is no doubt that qst provides an example of a very beautiful explanation of the construct of our universe. I'll definitely be watching to see where this theory takes us in the coming years. I'm sure that we'll hear a lot more from people once your book is published.

        Also, is there any illumination that qst can cast on young's double-slit experiment? If you can't tell already your new theory is making me so curious about so many persisting physics questions and how it might be able to help us understand them.

        • Thad Roberts λέει:

          Stephen,
          I've emailed you a pre-print pdf copy of the book. Please let me know if you didn't receive it (its a rather large file). Chapters 12 and 13 should adequately address your question about how qst makes sense of particle/wave duality. I think you'll be delighted to discover the solution it posits. I might add that Bohmian mechanics offers a rather interesting ontological perspective on the whole particle/wave topic. You might be interested in investigating that a bit also. The two perspectives have a lot in common.

          • Stephen says:

            Oh great. I'm excited to dig into it. I'll be sure to let you know if I have further questions

  9. Stefan palmer says:

    I am a student at weber state majoring in sales so needless to say i know nothing about quantum physics. In fact i hadnt even heard of it until i got home late one night and stumbled across you and this sweet website. I have always been fascinated by space and how this world goes round. But i have always assumed that all of that stuff was over my head, but you lay out information that is so complex so simply that a dumb ass sales major can follow what you are teaching. I am not being humble just realistic when i say i will never be able to make the discoveries you have, but i am so thankful you are willing to share your knowledge with me. If we all put our energy into helping each other a long we would be so much better off. Thx for doing just that, and i will keep my eyes open for any updates or discoveries you have made. The only complaint that i have is its 730 am And i have to get up at 9 but i cant get off this damn website to go to sleep because of how fascinating the discoveries that you have made are. Thx again

    • Thad Roberts λέει:

      Dear Stefan,
      Its great to hear about your excitement. I believe that everyone can be a part of the amazing quest to uncover the truth and peer behind the veil. We all have what it takes to ask questions and try to make sense of the big mysteries of our time. I see the end goal as desirable, but the journey as the real treasure. Thanks for joining the journey. I look forward to seeing where it takes us. If you are interested in reading a preprint of my book, please email me and I'll forward a pdf to you.
      Thad

  10. Ben λέει:

    Thad, I find qst theory amazingly elegant and would really like develop a deeper intuition of it. Could you perhaps send me one of those pdf copies?

    bwc7​0​@​email.​vccs.​edu

    Cheers, Ben

  11. jake3_14 says:

    As a language lover, I'm confused by the terms that have origins in x,y,z space applied to non-x,y,z space. How can quanta have inter-space is the notion of space itself is rooted in three dimensions? Similarly, how can quanta move in superspace, when the concept of movement is rooted in three dimensions? Even the concept of resonance is rooted in the 3-D concept of vibration. Doesn't QST (and perhaps, quantum mechanics) need distinct terminology, even when trying to simplify it for the lay public, so that the public doesn't try to apply three-dimensional concepts where they don't apply?

    • Thad Roberts λέει:

      Jake, You are certainly correct, distinct terminology is needed here. Our language is well rooted in Euclidean assumptions, but this model is not Euclidean. Throughout the book I try to keep these issues clear, giving distinct names to different kinds of spaces (intraspatial, spatial, and superspatial).

  12. jake3_14 says:

    Typo in the above: ” How can quanta have inter-space *if* the notion of space itself is rooted in three dimensions?

  13. Gary says:

    One major confusion,

    In conversation one we hear how bodies do not exert a force of gravity between each other thereby causing orbits… we learn that this is a fudge of classical thinking.

    We instead learn the very intuitive ideas based on density and the redefinition of what it means to continue following the straight line. That is, that in QST those orbits are not the result of a phantom pulling force but rather the result of 'curved' space causing a straight path to describe a closed loop (or, rather, a closed loop to describe a straight line)

    PROBLEM

    In our universe, orbits decay and objects collide… yet in QST only two straight paths exist. The first would appear to offer an eternal orbit (eternal as no gravitational force is acting) The second would be a direct line towards the centre of density (Climbing the gradient) which, in the absence of a classical gravitational pull, should be as simple as leaving the centre of density (Descending the gradient)

    But, we know that firing a rocket straight up from the earths centre of mass is rather difficult as an 'apparent' pull is felt. Can QST account for this problem of descending the gradient?

    Alternatively, we know that left alone and undisturbed a rocket at apogee will submit to an apparent pulling force and ascend QST's gradient… but the motivating nature does not appear to be accounted for.

    And finally, as mentioned, orbits decay. If one imagines a perfectly circular gradient of density as might be described by a large mass… QST seems to dictate that, in the absence of mans bogus gravity, an orbiting object will orbit indefinitely as nothing is acting upon it to sway it from continuing in its perfectly straight (closed) line (loop)

    I worry (perhaps unfairly) that Thad's QST is fulfilling its aims, but only if the aims are to sell books. It is a legitimate worry with all of the snakeoil currently being peddled … and, whilst I hope this is not the case, it would cheer me up considerably if I didn't 'instinctively' feel so many inconsistencies. In some ways I would feel much better if the scientific community felt inclined to debunk QST – as at least then it would mean that it had possibly touched a nerve.

    I wonder if anyone can shed light on the above QST explanations for the observable effect we dub 'gravity'

    Many thanks,

    -Gary
    Humble Student, The Open University (UK)

    • Thad Roberts λέει:

      Dear Gary,
      It remains unclear as to why you presumed that only two straight paths exist. Perhaps this was an artifact of a brief description you encountered instead of the full one. I invite you to read the whole book, and encourage you to be critical of it. Should you find any internal inconsistencies, please point them out. In lieu of that interaction, it may help to note that in a density gradient of space, the straight path for a particular object also depends on the velocity of that object. Two objects approaching a radial density gradient (like the one belonging to the Earth) with identical directions, but different speeds, will follow different paths in response to that gradient. Each path is the straight path for each object. Both sides (and all parts) of each object must interact with the same amount of space. This, of course, is what we observe. Also, it is important to remember that all gradients present play a role. It would be a mistake to oversimplify our example if we mean it to apply to the real world. Of course, often times out of a desire to explain the model simplifications are used – like starting with a region that holds just the earth and another object. Starting with such a simplification does not imply that the model actually thinks the real universe only contains these two objects. For prediction purposes this model is matched perfectly with Einstein's description of spacetime curvature. The primary difference between models is the intuitive import that this one carries with it. That said, it is based on clear and well-defined assumptions, which anyone is free to agree with or disagree with. Disagreeing with the assumptions does not really attack the model, it just steps outside of it and ignores it altogether. To attack the model one must find internal inconsistencies. If you'd like to receive a free copy of the book (as I have offered all along) I'd be happy to hear your thoughts on it. Thank you for your skepticism.

  14. Armen says:

    How would qst explain our asymmetric visible universe in terms of matter and anti-matter?

    • Thad Roberts λέει:

      Great question! The answer comes from a property of superfluids. When we rotate a superfluid volume, the bulk of that volume does not start spinning about like a regular fluid would. Instead, the rotational energy we put into the system is absorbed internally as quantum vortices inside the bulk. The direction we rotate that volume will determine the direction of those vortices. The model assumes that the vacuum is a superfluid, and that on a different resolution the entire universe is like a suspended superfluid drop in a higher system. The expectation is that collisions between drops will rarely be head on. Instead, they will impart at least a small amount of rotational energy into each rebounding drop/universe. But, since each is composed of a superfluid, that rotational energy will manifest internally as quantum vortices. As stable metric distortions, these vortices are the analog of fundamental matter particles. So in one universe they will have one direction, and in the other the reverse direction. Additional vortices can be created within the bulk, but they must be created in pairs (matter and antimatter equally). Since the vast majority of vortices are consequent from the last external collision, we have an overwhelmingly majority of vortices that correlate to matter and only a little that correlate with antimatter.
      Thad

  15. brett says:

    please send me a copy of your book. this is good work.

  16. Daniel says:

    Αγαπητοί Thad,

    First of all: thank you for this enlightening new view on reality. Please send me a copy of your book.
    Deeply impressed with your work, I set out on a quest to find any comments on this by any credible scientific sources. Perhaps my searching skills are failing me, but I am having trouble finding any. At the moment, that is my biggest concern about your theory. The fact that it has been around for years now, and revolutionary as it seems to be, it has not caused a huge stir in the scientific community. Again, perhaps my searching skills have failed me, I hope they have, and if so, please enlighten me once more.

    Either way, I love what you're doing, please keep doing it!

    Τις καλύτερες ευχές,

    Ντάνιελ

    • Thad Roberts λέει:

      Try searching for the more general overarching name 'superfluid vacuum theory.' Of course, you'll find that despite the many publications that fall within superfluid vacuum theory, we are a far cry away from seeing a stir in the scientific community. A revolution in thinking requires first that people value thinking. The current situation in the physics community counters that value. Only one interpretation of quantum mechanics is taught in most universities, and it is the interpretation that most discourages thinking – in fact it attempts to actually forbid an interpretation, which is why some have called it “the Copenhagen non-interpretation.” It is even popular now to deny philosophy as a part of science, which reduces science to meaningless technician work. So the revolution we are pushing is less about a specific new interpretation or model of Nature, but one that brings science back to a nobel human endeavor. Your skepticism is more than welcome, it is encouraged. Scientists should not make ultimate claims to truth, but they cannot abandon the quest for truth and call themselves scientists either. Που σας στέλνει το βιβλίο τώρα. Please examine it in full and send your critique.

  17. Shane Killeen says:

    Γεια Thad

    I have only recently discovered your work when an acquaintance of mind, the writer AA Attanasio, suggested I check out your work and since then I have watched all I can and read through this comment thread with great interest. I have absolutely no scientific background but have pursued a theory for the last 15 years that explains all of these phenomena intuitively as one cogent whole. What I find staggering is how many conclusions are the same and how similar the grand picture is. I dare say that I believe I have something significant to contribute your theory but it would be jumping the gun without having studied your whole document. I tried to find it on Kindle with no luck. Is it possible that I could have a copy of your book as well? It would be deeply appreciated and an expansion on what is already a remarkable affirmation.

  18. Niklas says:

    So, I think I'm following all of this pretty well, except how the quanta create matter as we know it.
    My mind is all over the place, so I apologize if you get lost, haha.
    How do quanta stick together? Is it a stable geometry dependent on factors like temperature, distance, charge, etc? (There are 5 that we know of, right?) Does each quanta have a unique value for each of those? Or react TO those quantities in a field around it? And do these quanta eventually stick together so much that they form, say, a quark? And depending on the geometry they form different quarks? Then those quarks form different geometries into particles? What stops quanta from continuing to get stuck? Constants of nature? How are those defined?

    Second question, kinda:
    How would we explain tossing a ball straight up into the air? The ball travels through a very dense field of quanta, but what pulls it directly back down? The fact that the “bottom” of the ball is bouncing off of quanta more than the “top” of the ball?

    • Thad Roberts λέει:

      Hi Niklas,

      Αυτά είναι μεγάλα ερωτήματα. I will give short answers here, but I have written up much more detailed explanations on these very topics in my book. If you do not have it please send me an email requesting it and I'll pass it along.

      First let's recall that the quanta are constituents of a superfluid. Superfluids support quantum vortices, which do not dissipate because the superfluid has no internal friction. These stable quantum vortices are the fundamental particles. Quantum vortices only exist in quantized sizes. This gives us a method by which to match up the fundamental particles of mass in Nature. Remember, mass is a distortion in the fabric of space, the vacuum. So the notion of mass is no longer applicable on the scale of the quantum.

      The constants of Nature section in my book should answer all of your questions on this topic. If not, I'd love to hear your questions.

      As for your questions about the ball being tossed straight up. The thing to remember is that the “field” of curved space, or the density gradient of quanta, is not a static thing. In the macroscopic sense its average properties might seem static, but the underlying motions and actions that form it are not. All we have to do is remember that objects that are not under the influence of a “force” will tend to travel straight. The straight path is what we must consider, and the solution is always the path that allows all parts of an object to experience identical amounts of space. If an object is sitting in a density gradient of space, the little motions of the quanta that make up that gradient determine how much space the object experiences. Since there is a non-zero gradient, there is a macroscopically measurable different in the amount of quanta interacting with the “bottom” side versus the “top” side. Which ever side is interacting with space the most determines the direction the object will tend to go. Chapter 9 will describe this in greater detail.

  19. Ιωάννης λέει:

    Thad,

    As a futher device for our imagination would you mind stetching, with commentary about density gradients, the jounery of each of a single photon, neutrino and electron from say a super nova explosion till that particle interacts with something.

    It is also a test of the explainatory power of your theroy against current obsevations.

    I love your work and it seems to me as a trained logician that it would make sense to test a theory with minimal assumptions before inventing the current set of ad hoc assumptions for dark matter, dark energy, gravitational force gravitions, etc

    • Thad Roberts λέει:

      Γεια σου Γιαννη,
      As a single photon travels through “empty” space from a super nova until it interacts with something, its path is determined by the vacuum state of the region it is passing through. That state evolves through time, but if we assume empty space, meaning zero curvature, then the largest effect we must be concerned with is the microscopic effects from the different possible arrangements of the quanta (the different allowed configuration states of the vacuum). For large wavelengths of light those differences will be washed completely out by the averaging-over process, but for sufficiently high energy photons (short wavelength) there will be noticeable effects. For example, the scales on which we would call the paths straight will decrease, and more importantly, photons that are extremely high energy will tunnel through the vacuum – meaning that they will go from location A in space to location B without interacting with all the space between those two locations. One testable prediction here is that these high energy photons will exhibit less red shift than lower energy photons from the same sources (or distances). The model specifically explains that red shift is a function of the inelastic collisions between quanta of space, so if the highest energy photons are skipping some of those collisions then they will be less red shifted. The practical difficultly with measuring this effect is that it is only really expected for photons with wavelengths that approach the Planck length (at least within an order of magnitude or a few orders). Nevertheless, the effect is waiting to be measured.

  20. Christian Grieco says:

    Thad,

    Your work is fascinating. It's simplicity is eloquent. Was hoping to learn a great deal more and am hoping to get a copy of your book.

    • Thad Roberts λέει:

      Ευχαριστώ. I'm emailing you the book now.

      I have also recently just finished showing (including the math) that a superfluid vacuum automatically explains the electric field and magnetic field as divergence and curl in the flow of the vacuum. I'm starting to edit chapter 20 to include that information, so if you are interested then send me a request for an update before you reach Chapter 20. 😉

  21. Anderson says:

    I'm in love with this idea that reality is 11 dimensional. I would have to ask however that if 1 planck can be thought of as a bubble, what is the measure of the surface of the bubble? Is the circumference still Pi? It seems to me like it would have to be, but I'm concerned that that might be my predisposition to think in a Newtonian way. At such a small scale, are these “bubbles” even spherical? And although it might be impossible, as a thought experiment think of a creature that exists in superspace and is on the surface of a planck bubble, how would that creature experience time? Or would it only experience supertime?
    The more satisfying our answers become the more bizarre our new questions must be.
    Alas, I am only a layman.

    • Thad Roberts λέει:

      We treat the bubble as spherical in a time-averaged sense. Nevertheless, the shape of their boundaries are not defined in x, y, z space at all. Instead, they are defined in superspace. And in superspace, yes, the ratio of their circumference to diameter would be π. The hypothetical creature you speak of would not experience time at all, because such a creature would not be made up of space. Instead she would be made up of superspace, and would experience supertime. Chapter 11 of the book goes into more detail on this. Αποστολή σε εσάς τώρα.

  22. Frank says:

    Hi, thank you for this video. I appreciate how 11D can be visualized in the mind, but it was helpful seeing the drawings as well.
    What is left after the smallest unit of space is divided? If it's no longer space or a planck bit, what is it called?
    Would it no longer be located within the 11 dimensions?
    Are there infinite dimensions?
    May I have a copy of your book?

    • Thad Roberts λέει:

      Φυσικά. I just emailed you a copy of the book. I think you'll find the figures in the book quite helpful. When we talk about less than a Planck length of space, we are not talking about space. Instead, we are referencing intraspatial information. The name is not as important as the properties. In this model, the vacuum is made up of quanta, the quanta are similarly made up of sub-quanta, and those are made up of sub-sub-quanta, and so on. The fractal structure of the model guarantees that the relationships between each of these levels of construction are self-similiar. It is this fact that gives us direct access to the complete picture. The total number of dimensions in the map depends upon your resolution level. The equation is # of dimensions = 3^n + n, where n is your oder of perspective. Treating the vacuum as a continuum is a first order perspective. Quantizing the vacuum is a second order perspective. Quantizing the quanta is a third order perspective and so on. So if you wish to map Nature with infinite resolution, then yes, according to this construction there are infinite dimensions. But a second order resolution can get you a full explanation of the dynamics observed in quantum mechanics and general relativity. The cause of the Big Bang, however, requires at least a third order perspective to resolve. Chapter 11 should make this more clear.

  23. praroop joshi says:

    hey thad…i am a student but i am really interested in these kind of theory , but i have a minute question
    can gravity travel in different dimension ?
    just like they say in BRANES of string theory.
    and is this the reason that the gravity is the weakest among all the fundamental forces?
    and one more thing if we were to live in different dimensions rather that X,Y,Z, what will it consist i mean can time be an spatial co-ordinate?
    wait for your reply.

    • Thad Roberts λέει:

      Your question brings us to what is known as the hierarchy problem. Let me respond with an excerpt from Chapter 19 in my book that addresses this topic:

      Despite the fact that particle physicists have devoted decades of intense research to solving the hierarchy problem, the question of how the feebleness of gravity interlocks with the rest of the picture remains a mystery. The standard model of particle physics makes it easy to treat all forces as the result of an interchange of force particles. With regard to the electromagnetic, weak, and strong nuclear forces, all of our experiments have shown an absolutely stunning alignment with this theoretical depiction. This alignment becomes the supporting foundation for an underlying symmetry in Nature because it links the strengths of these forces into a relatively tight range and unifies the source of their origination and the proposed mechanics responsible for them.

      All of this is aesthetically beautiful and pleasing, except for the fact that we have a rather serious upset when we attempt to compute the strength of gravity through the same model. Paradoxically, when we treat gravity like we treat the other forces—as a similar exchange of some kind of force particle—we find that the standard model clusters gravity's expected strength in range with the other known forces. It predicts that the symmetry underlying the other forces should also belong to gravity and it spits out a value for the strength of gravity that is astronomically different from what we observe it to be.

      Comparing gravity's actual strength to the standard model's theoretical prediction of its strength, we end up with a discrepancy that spans sixteen orders of magnitude. This is a serious problem. Such an enormous misalignment suggests that the standard model of particle physics is still missing something big.

      Over the years, two popular approaches have attempted to make sense of this enormous discrepancy. The first approach assumes that gravity does in fact belong clustered with the other forces in symmetry and strength—that the true strength of gravity is as the standard model predicts. To account for the feebleness of gravity that is observed, this approach then makes the claim that gravity undergoes an enormous dilution by way of additional dimensions. In other words, gravity is attenuated, which means that its strength is primarily dispersed elsewhere. ( This is what you were suggesting. )

      In order to make this approach work, theorists have been forced to assume two critical conditions. First, in order to sufficiently dilute gravity the extra dimensions have to be very large, or very many. Second, gravity must be the only thing that is capable of being diluted throughout these extra dimensions. This assumption ensures that everything that doesn't involve gravity would look exactly the same as it would without extra dimensions, even if the extra dimensions were extremely large.

      The problem with this approach is that without a framework by which to uniquely select a specific number of extra dimensions, or to explain why gravity is the only thing that becomes diluted, these conditions introduce mysteries that are just as big as the one we set out to explain. These assumptions merely reword the hierarchy problem.

      Nevertheless, this idea posits an interesting prediction. It says that deviations from Newton's law of gravity should exist on distances that depend upon the size of those extra dimensions, which is correlated to the total number of extra dimensions that gravity is diluted through. If there were only one large extra dimension, it would have to be as large as the distance from the Earth to the Sun in order to dilute gravity enough. That's not allowed. If there were just two additional dimensions, they could be as small as a millimeter and still adequately dilute gravity. With more additional dimensions, it can be sufficiently diluted even if those extra dimensions are relatively small. For example, with six extra dimensions the size need only be about 10-13 centimeter, one ten thousandth of a billionth of a centimeter.

      To date, gravity's alignment with Newton's inverse square law has not been tested on a scale capable of ruling out, or supporting, this prediction. Because of this, supporters of this approach for solving the hierarchy problem hope that more accurate measurements will one day discover deviations on scales smaller than a millimeter and vindicate the idea. Any such evidence would be interesting, but wouldn't bring us the full ontological clarity we are after.

      The second popular approach for solving the hierarchy problem also assumes that the standard model's treatment of forces (being created by the interchange of force particles) applies identically to gravity, but it attempts to account for the feebleness of gravity by suggesting that the force particles responsible for gravity somehow have unique properties that must effectively weaken its strength. Because the particles that are imagined responsible for this, called gravitons, have thus far escaped all attempts to measure them, there has not been much progress made on this front.

      Both of these attempts are trying to treat gravity as though it were fundamentally the same as the other known forces, despite the fact that in the physical world gravity manifests itself as characteristically different. The motivation behind this comes from the desire to uncover deeper symmetries hidden in Nature and to use those symmetries to enhance our grasp of the natural realm. But what if there is a simpler way to unite the four forces? What if they are connected by a different kind of symmetry?

      The assumption that the vacuum is a superfluid could be the key to unification. If every force corresponds to a way in which the natural geometry differs from Euclidean geometry, then gravity can be understood to be unique among those differences because it is the only one that comes into focus macroscopically. That is, gravity is specifically offset from the other three forces because it arises as a small-amplitude collective excitation mode of the non-relativistic background condensate. In other words, it represents how the density of the vacuum slowly changes from one region to another, which necessitates a smooth representation that is only accurate in the low-energy, low-momentum regime.

      To understand why an accurate description of gravity is restricted to the low-energy, low- momentum regime, it is useful to be aware of the fact that fluid mechanics is an emergent consequent of molecular dynamics (within its low-energy, low-momentum limit). In other words, fluid mechanics is not a fundamental descriptor of any of the systems we apply it to. Those systems are actually driven by an underlying microphysics. Fluid mechanics exists only as an emergent approximation of the low-energy and low-momentum regime of the molecular dynamics that drive the system's evolution.

      Likewise, a velocity field (a vector field) and a derivative density field (a scalar field), which the Euler and continuity equations critically depend upon, do not exist on the microscopic level. They are emergent properties that are only resolved on scales larger than the mean free path and the mean free time.

      If the vacuum is a superfluid, whose metric is macroscopically describable by a state vector (a velocity vector field), then the density gradient of that fluid is an emergent approximation of the system instead of a fundamental descriptor. The cohesion of that approximation requires macroscopic scales, and molecular dynamics that are defined within the low-energy, low-momentum regime. Gravity becomes an expectation because, if the vacuum is a superfluid, if it can be modeled as an acoustic metric, then small fluctuations in that superfluid will obey Lorentz symmetry even though the superfluid itself is non- relativistic.

      The assumption of vacuum superfluidity fully reproduces expectations of compressibility (the ability for the metric to curve or warp), while projecting an internal velocity restriction. It also sets up an expectation of acoustic horizons, which turn out to be analogous to event horizons with the notable difference that they allow for certain physical effects to propagate back across the horizon, which might be analogous to, or responsible for, Hawking radiation. Therefore, if the vacuum is a superfluid, then gravity can be viewed as a macroscopic emergent expression, a collective property of the vacuum that supports long-range deformations in the density field. This small-amplitude characteristic is responsible for the feebleness of gravity.

      The strength of a force reflects the degree to which the geometric properties that author it contrast from Euclidean projections. Gravity is the weakest force because it only comes into focus on macroscopic scales, and therefore only slightly deviates from Euclidean expectations. The strong nuclear force, electromagnetism, and the weak nuclear force, are much stronger because they are all authored by geometric characteristics that deviate from Euclidean projections on even microscopic scales.

      Another way to put this is to say that metric distortions that qualify as gravity fields are inherently incapable of directly accessing the degrees of freedom that belong to the underlying molecular dynamics that drive the system. The metric distortion that leads to gravitational phenomena is capable of existing statically—the density gradient it represents is blind to the molecular dynamics that give rise to it—while the strong force, electromagnetism, and the weak force, are strictly sustained dynamically—they explicitly reference the underlying molecular dynamics. The magnitude of gravity (the degree to which this geometric distortion differs from the static Euclidean space) is, therefore, comparatively diluted. This is a consequence of the average-over process that gives rise to its geometry.

      Therefore, in as much as we consider underlying molecular dynamics to be an explanation of fluid mechanics (on low-energy and low-momentum scales), the assumption that the vacuum is a superfluid comes with a natural explanation for why gravity is so feeble compared to the other forces.

      I'll send you the book via email and look forward to further questions/comments.

  24. Lib says:

    I am completely untrained in science and math however I have been reading layman articles and listening to talks for many years. I just want to say i felt great appreciation for Thad and Co for their labors. The field of human intelligence is, I think, one field to which we all contribute. It is outside of time, though the process of human thought appears linear. I am somewhere in the renaissance, I can understand that the world is not flat and that the earth goes around the sun , despite the evidence of my eyes, and as I grasp the complexities of science and the new physics at an incredibly basic level, groping in darkness, I feel such kindness from the mind in this site, and such gratitude to it. How patient with others ! Quite exemplary of the self-organizing, cooperative intelligence at work.(I see it as the evolutionary life-force, once thought of as a Being outside the system). Thanks for helping the field along.

    • Thad Roberts λέει:

      Hi Elizabeth,
      Thank you for your support. We are trying to bring science back into the hands of those that have the courage to honestly ask questions, and to free it from the political pressures that have been strangling its potential. In science, it is never appropriate to justify a truth claim based on it being the claim of some “authority”. The logic should speak for itself. More importantly, we are individually responsible for our own participation in the quest for knowledge and wisdom. As you know, we can never be completely confident that the model we have of Nature is correct, what we can do is evaluate how honestly we have challenged every assumption, and rigorously test against all possible options. Our work is meant to be a guide in that process. It follows the thread of a particular model, one that offer immense ontological clarity, but its true aim is to empower each individual with the skills necessary to push our intellectual boundaries. It asks the questions that challenge our very foundations, and it offers insight into how we might rebuild that foundation. Anyone who reads this book will gain the ability to become a powerful part of the conversation.

  25. Jim λέει:

    The flickering (or vibration) of particles of space and the averaging out on the large scale, feels kind of like the illusions of movie projectors – a consistent image appears to the eye, but if you inspect it more closely you realize there's far more to the story.

    The one thing that confused me about the model, was the idea of distance being the number of space particles. If that were so, it would seem that our three-dimensions are hoisted on top of the dimension of space-time, or, perhaps, are dependent on – an outgrowth of – space-time.

    • Thad Roberts λέει:

      The idea is that the vacuum is itself a fluid, this measures of space measure amounts of that fluid between positions. I'm not sure what you meant by, “dependent on – an outgrowth of – spacetime.”

  26. Gururaj Bhat says:

    Γεια,
    I'm a lay person but found your work very interesting. Can you please send a copy of your book?
    Ευχαριστώ
    Gururaj

  27. Sahil says:

    hey I am a student of physics and would love to read your book. Could you please send me a pdf copy

  28. stewart says:

    Thad, will you send me a copy of your book?

    Ευχαριστώ
    stewart

    • Thad Roberts λέει:

      Το βιβλίο είναι τώρα διαθέσιμες μέσω Lulu .com (σκληρό εξώφυλλο πλήρες χρώμα), το Amazon .com (μαλακό εξώφυλλο πλήρες χρώμα), ή μέσω του iTunes (iBook). You'll find links to each here.

      http: // www .ein steinsin tu ρανταρ .com

      Αν θέλετε ένα υπογεγραμμένο αντίγραφο παρακαλώ επιτρέψτε μου να ξέρω. Εάν δεν μπορούν να αντέξουν το $ 14,99 αυτή τη στιγμή (για το iBook) μου στείλετε άλλο μήνυμα και επιτρέψτε μου να ξέρω.

  29. Gene says:

    Hi – thanks for your work. I am a mathematician, and have done some work in higher dimensional geometry, but have little training in physics, and am not a scientist. I have a few questions.

    It seems you are proposing that the quanta are arranged within 3-dimensional space, and that the other 6 dimensions are somehow “within” the three (what I think you call superspace). Is that correct?

    If quanta 1 and 2 are separated by one plankton, and quanta 2 and three are separated by one plankton in a different dimension perpendicular to the first, would the distance between quanta 1 and 3 also be one plankton? In Euclidean geometry it would be the square root of 2. Am I totally off here?

    I assume that your model rejects the theory that the extra 6 dimensions are “curled up” in tiny amounts of curved dimensions around each quanta?

    Forgive me if these questions do not make sense. I appreciate your work and am looking to understand more. Ευχαριστώ.

    • Thad Roberts λέει:

      Hi Gene,
      That's partially correct. The quanta of space collectively form the x, y, z vacuum of space that we are familiar with. This means that the arrangements of all the quanta at one instant defines the state of space for that instant, but that connectivity is not static. It evolves according to the wave equation as the quanta mix about. In your specific example, if quanta A and B are separated by one Planck length, then that means that one quantum of space lies between them. If B and C are perpendicularly arranged from A and B, and were also one quantum apart then they also only have one quantum between them. This is not a static condition. At some instances the state of space might find A and B two quanta apart, while others might find them with now quanta of space between them. At any rate, the number of quanta (the amount of space) between A and C would be a whole number (0, 1, 2, 3…) at any particular instant, but would average out to have a value equal to the square root of 2. Does that make sense? So, yes, at any particular moment the spatial separation between A and C might be one quantum of space, and an no point in time would it be the square root of 2, yet the average separation would eventually become the square root of 2.

      If you're interested in getting the book, it is now available via Lulu​.com (hardcover full color), Amazon​.com (softcover full color), or through iTunes (iBook). You'll find links to each here.

      http://​www​.ein​steinsin​tu​ition​.com

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      • Gene says:

        I have problems with the idea of quanta “mixing about” over time. It implies that each quanta is identifiable, and moves from location to location albeit in a “jumpy” fashion. But quanta are the definition of location, from what I understand. Does not “mixing about” imply another frame of reference to “locate” each quanta within 3D space?

        • Thad Roberts λέει:

          Yes, absolutely. The quanta are positioned in configuration space, otherwise called superspace. The collection of these quanta fill out the dimensions of x, y, z or familiar space. When there are more than 3 spatial dimensions “location” become a more complex concept.

  30. Artax says:

    Hello Thad,
    I'm very happy because i discover you, i'd always thought “the problem is geometrical”, and so is the solution!
    I would be very grateful if you would send me your book,hopefully I will return the favor in the near future :)
    Ευχαριστώ
    Αντίο

    • Thad Roberts λέει:

      Μπορείτε να παραγγείλετε το iBook, μαλακό εξώφυλλο σκληρό εξώφυλλο ή μέσω αυτής της ιστοσελίδας. If you cannot afford either of these options let me know and I can send you a promo code for a free iBook.

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